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Ted Cruz 2016 : TPA Senate Vote Good : TPA is NOT Secret Agrement (TPA & TPP Different) : 2015-06-12
Texas Supporting Senator Ted Cruz ^ | 2015-06-12 | Toby Marie Walker

Posted on 06/12/2015 5:05:09 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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To: Diogenesis
Yep, Cruz will never recover from this.

Never.

101 posted on 06/12/2015 6:40:05 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Ted Cruz CERTAINLY is no Ronald Reagan.


102 posted on 06/12/2015 6:40:51 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: P-Marlowe; cripplecreek

Well, I don’t know if Cruz has killed his campaign if all of the candidates are voting for it, but yes he has missed a warning for sure from a decent man, in Jeff Sessions.

The Cruzers should have a modicum of curiosity why Sessions would fear this agreement if it’s such a peach of a deal under a Marxist like Obama no less!

Note to Ted:
“Please, buck up. ANSWER Jeff.”


103 posted on 06/12/2015 6:43:02 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: xzins; All
"Nor does he explain how Senator Jeff Sessions, who has seen the secret deal, says exactly the opposite."

Yep.

No other explanation is possible.

Either Cruz or Sessions is lying.

Who to believe?

104 posted on 06/12/2015 6:43:46 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

A vote for TPA is a vote for TPP. If TPA passes, then TPP is a done deal.

By voting for TPA, Cruz has voted for the TPP. It is like the cloture votes. A vote for cloture on a fillibustered bill is a vote for the bill itself. Cruz knows that. He’s said it dozens of times.

Cruz supports this top secret deal and even if he later votes against it, it is merely going to be a CYA vote so he can tell all those sheeple that he opposed it.


105 posted on 06/12/2015 6:48:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: RitaOK

Answer Jeff?

LOL they worked on making it better together. Maybe you wizards should ask Sessions specifically about Ted Cruz.


106 posted on 06/12/2015 6:48:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Enlightened1
Cruz and Walker are at their core really Transnational Progressivists.

This is because ObamaTrade owes no allegiance to the American citizen.

It is now about technocrats controlling the global citizen, who now live in nations without borders.

Meaning the redistribution of wealth goes to the global corporations first and then the rest is used as bribes to keep competing global groups in check.

And if these global groups do not comply with the demand of the technocrats, then the permission to terminate rebels with extreme prejudice will be authorized.

107 posted on 06/12/2015 6:48:26 AM PDT by WIBamian (I will not be abused by liars.)
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To: Mariner

And the corruption goes on, total and absolute, with no end in sight. Sure give the bony phony more power to screw us again. After Obamacare why should we trust anything from this government?


108 posted on 06/12/2015 6:48:38 AM PDT by JayAr36 ( Watch the news and see America going down the drain.)
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To: Mariner

Cruz just called Sessions a liar.

Cruz is TOAST.


109 posted on 06/12/2015 6:49:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Mariner

Cruz is the liar.

I heard him previously say he did NOT read TPA.
Now he says he did.

Cruz is TOAST.


110 posted on 06/12/2015 6:50:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Patton@Bastogne

TPA guarantees TPP and Cruz knows it and so does anyone else who has spent 10 minutes looking at this farce Americans are being fed by Obama and the GOP. Sessions has spoken the truth about this and only a few others like Paul.


111 posted on 06/12/2015 6:54:10 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: lodi90
Cruz is treating thinking conservatives like children. Like we can’t gather our own facts. Hugely insulting and obamaesque.

I disagree. Cruz is treating thinking conservatives like debating opponents, where he lays out his position and the reasons behind it. If thinking conservatives disagree, they can (and do) lay out their positions and rationale in an opposing statement.

While it may be correct to oppose TPA as a conservative position (I have not digested the TPA text, so I will not try to stand on one side or the other at the moment), saying that Cruz is being Obamaesque for laying out his reasoning like this is a mistake, in my opinion. He, at least, is trying to convince skeptics based on his understanding of the actual bill, as opposed to grandstanding and pontificating based on what people may wish to hear.

It may become true that Cruz's support for TPA is a millstone around his candidacy's neck, but his treatment of those that disagree with him is, again in my opinion, entirely honorable and forthright. He is not engaging in name calling, nor trying to shame opponents - he is explaining his position based on the facts as he understands them. I wish more politicians would act this way, personally.

112 posted on 06/12/2015 6:54:10 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: cripplecreek; xzins

DO share.

As the hour is upon us, exactly where is it now, that we can read where Sessions and Cruz, together, are now giving this dog a pass in this “hurry up” formation?

It’s a decent question.


113 posted on 06/12/2015 6:54:26 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: cripplecreek; xzins

DO share.

As the hour is upon us, exactly where is it now, that we can read where Sessions and Cruz, together, are now giving this dog a pass in this “hurry up” formation?

It’s a decent question.


114 posted on 06/12/2015 6:54:47 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: C210N

Bump, thanks for the link, listening live now!!


115 posted on 06/12/2015 6:56:48 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: RitaOK

Might as well be talking to cattle.

Kiss the ring and shut up.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3299127/posts


116 posted on 06/12/2015 6:56:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: P-Marlowe; Mariner

TPA is fast track.

Under fast track, any trade bill can be kept secret until the final 24 hours before the final vote. Then there are no amendments allowed, and, in fact, any debate is controlled.

Then there is the vote.

Is there any way that this is a sane method for running a government?


117 posted on 06/12/2015 6:57:56 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek

WTH?

Your linky there had nothing on Sessions and Cruz coming together on this dog called, TPP, sport.


118 posted on 06/12/2015 7:05:05 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Leto

Please show us where Cruz acknowleges, and justifies his vote for, the provision in TPA removing the filibuster and reducing the final vote to a simple majority.

Keep in mind before you respond that he’s the guy who successfully shut down the government by using the filibuster.

My parents always taught me that lies of omission were still lies. And lies aren’t “honest.”


119 posted on 06/12/2015 7:09:03 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Mariner

The beauty of this is that you can believe both or, perhaps, don’t have to believe either.

The TPP will be made public before the vote. The public will get to see it and provide feedback to their elected officials on it.

But Cruz voted for stripping out the filibuster and making it a simple majority vote. THATS the real issue here. If Cruz now votes against TPP he’s pulled a John Kerry “I voted for the bill before I voted against it” move.


120 posted on 06/12/2015 7:16:37 AM PDT by tanknetter
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