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Colt Defense Files for Chapter 11
Dow Jones Business News NASDAQ ^ | June 14, 2015, 09:15:00 PM EDT | by Dow Jones Business News

Posted on 06/14/2015 10:43:43 PM PDT by Spktyr

Gun maker Colt Defense LLC said late Sunday it is filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy-court protection, amid business- execution issues and a heavy debt burden.

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To: tumblindice

Your understanding is incorrect. The High Power is supposed to be able to feed any type cartridge - but like most pistols there are occasionally some brands and ammo designs that individual specific pistols won’t like due to production variances.

I’ve had many a P35 over the years and aside from some WW2 production Inglis-made guns all would cheerfully swallow most any hollowpoints. I only ever had one weird interaction where a license-built Argentine High Power didn’t like Black Talons. The projectile would sometimes get hung up on the feed ramp. The pistol would devour Hydrashok and the later Golden Saber worked just fine. I couldn’t be bothered to find out why it didn’t work, especially when every other High Power I had at the time didn’t have a problem with it.


41 posted on 06/15/2015 12:28:14 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dp0622
"Who would be the bigshot on the block of gun manufacturers these days. I’m thinking of going to a range and i know Nothing i’m sorry to say."

I'm have limited knowledge in this area. However, certain Glocks are popular because of weight and reliability. Better is Sig Sauer 9MM that is carried by SEALs, Rangers, and many LEOs. The Sig Sauer P226 (which I used to own until lost in a boating accident) is the pistol that set the standard by which all other combat handguns are measured.

Of course many will come behind this post about their preferences. They should know better than I. Just know that Sig Sauer is at the top of the heap and used to fit nicely in my average sized hand. If you want a safety switch, than skip Sig P226. But as most gun owners know, the safety is your finger NOT on the trigger until you absolutely want/need to squeeze.

Let me say this again. Never put your finger on the trigger whether a handgun, rifle, or shotgun. Keep your index finger OUTSIDE of the trigger guard until you absolutely know you are going to fire!!! That's rule number 2 in my book.

Rule number 1: ALWAYS consider a firearm loaded. Even if your best friend or relative hands you a so-called unloaded firearm, don't take it unless you know how to check to see if loaded.

Rule number 2: See above

Rule number 3: Never ever intentionally point a firearm at a person. I could go on about handling firearms, but these 3 rules will start you off.

Glad you're interested in guns, but do yourself a favor and get some training at your nearest gun range or gun provider store.

Disclaimer: I'm not very proficient in handguns nor rifles, but give me a shotgun, I've had the training recently. I can shoot from my shoulder, under arm-pit, and from my waist and hit my target. If you're looking for home defense, that is your best weapon. You can attach a light to any Remington 870 shotgun to blind intruders and spray them with either light weight bird shot or what's called Double Odd Six. OO, if close enough it will do what you see in the movies. Plus, the benefit of a shotgun for home defense is that other than OO, most loads won't penetrate far enough to hit your neighbors. The downside of a shotgun in small homes is that it can be unwieldy for tight corners.

Another tip while you get your training: NEVER EVER GO LOOKING FOR WHAT YOU THINK ARE INTRUDERS IN YOUR HOME IN THE DARK! unless you are separated from loved ones. That is THE only reason you should go hunting. Stuff is stuff...let them take it rather than killing someone and facing criminal and civil charges.

Try to fortify yourself/others in a room with your weapon and call 9/11. Keep them on the phone and tell them you are scared and fear for your life. That phrase has been known to innoculate if things go south and you have to fire.

42 posted on 06/15/2015 12:37:01 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: dp0622

You’re just remembering those old comic ads.


43 posted on 06/15/2015 1:28:26 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: __rvx86

Understood. I call them that all the time but if you look at most ammo you’ll see the term 45 AUTO on it. There are a few non-SAAMI companies that still use ACP, but the SAAMI designation for that round is now 45 AUTO.


44 posted on 06/15/2015 1:44:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Spktyr
Colt has been having money troubles for years and has continually dumped on its civilian customers in favor of law enforcement and military firearms (limited markets at best). The problem for Colt is their products really aren't that competitive with other manufacturers and they've tried to make their AR-15 variations into Colt proprietary products instead of the more popular Mil-Spec AR with affordable and interchangeable parts.

Since Colt's first AR-15 SP1 “Sporter” was first marketed in 1964, Colt has had this compulsive fear that Colt lowers could not interface with Mil-Spec uppers. First, Colt abandoned the captive push pin for a two headed screw to join the upper and lower receivers — while all other AR manufacturers use the captive push pin. Colt continues to be odd man out in this AR feature to this very day.

Then, Colt decided to play games with the lower receiver trigger and hammer pins. They increased the pin diameter from 0.154 inches to 0.176 inches to prevent installation of M16 parts. all this has done is make Colt “big pin” lowers the odd man out again. All other manufacturers of AR lowers use 0.154 inch pins.

The last screwing around with parts is Colt's has systematically butchered the AR-15 bolt carrier. They have removed metal in an attempt to make it on interchangeable with the M16 and weakened it in the process. All other AR manufacturers use a semi-auto only bolt carrier that cuts the bottom of the carrier back so that it cannot trip the sear if full auto parts are installed. None of them butcher the bolt carrier the way Colt's does.

Last but not least, Colt's decreed that all its “bread and butter” firearms were only available through the Colt's Custom Shop whose customer service totally sucks. Firearms affected were their AR-15 and Government Model Series 80 or M1991A1 pistols. [To appease the lawyers, Colt's modified the M1911A1 to add an unnecessary five parts for a firing pin interlock. This was sold to consumers as correcting a design flaw — that never existed. Series 80 GM’s (or M1991A1’s) work well without these useless parts.]

Perhaps Colt's will get their business model correct after their Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization — it's not as if they've not had previous experience in trying to straighten their act out, but they just keep screwing things up and expect the customer not to notice and be happy with crappy service and products.

45 posted on 06/15/2015 2:52:24 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Daly Danko)
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To: tumblindice

Totally agree about the revolvers ... I have a .357 Security Six that has to be 25 years old and is a fine weapon. It is safe, well balanced and accurate. It is a long barrel model so shot-to-shot recovery is quick even with magnum loads. Even the wife likes it though she prefers her ladies-sized 9mm Kahr.


46 posted on 06/15/2015 3:22:41 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: tumblindice
I have found out if you have a forged barrel +P ammo is OK.

I think that the BHP +P ammo issue was not the barrel but rather frame cracking. The older 9mm BHPs are forged. When Browning introduced the .40 cal version, it changed to a stronger cast frame for both the .40 and 9mm versions.

PD ammo has been moving from bullets with hollow points to expanding bullets that don't have an actual hollow point. As to which ammo will work in what gun -- it is highly recommended that one try the ammo out at the range first before relying on it for defense.

I think we'll see Colt continue as a brand pretty much "forever" in spite of what the unions and bad management have done to the company. Someone will buy and reorganize the wreckage. With luck, they'll preserve the blueprints and old tooling, and maybe bring back popular models that Colt hasn't been bothering to make in decades.

Brands that are household names usually live on. Jaguar is owned by Tata Motors (India), Volvo is owned by Geely Holding Group (China).

47 posted on 06/15/2015 3:37:25 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: Spktyr
Maybe FNH can buy them and have Miroku produce "Colt" SAAs to go with their "Winchesters." Sure, there will be some sort of half-assed "safety" stuck on it, but the build quality will at least come close to giving you what you paid for.

Mr. niteowl77

48 posted on 06/15/2015 3:53:32 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("SoÂ… which end of this piece of crap do we set on fire?")
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To: tumblindice

In a former life I had a Dan Wesson 357 Magnum with interchangeable barrels. My b-in-law had a Colt Python 357. I could shoot rings around him.


49 posted on 06/15/2015 4:01:56 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: dp0622

50 posted on 06/15/2015 4:02:47 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: ByteMercenary

Bought mine in 1980. Love it.


51 posted on 06/15/2015 4:29:55 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: lapsus calami

Sounds like they shot themselves in the foot.


52 posted on 06/15/2015 4:35:23 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ltc8k6

> “No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun”

Bill Ruger.

Yes we do. Why? Muzzies. Lots of ‘em.


53 posted on 06/15/2015 4:38:57 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: The Unknown Republican

Understand that at the time Smith & Wesson held those views it was owned by a foreign entity. It was bought back by an American group sometime after the Clinton ban was put into effect and was completely restructured. Any negative views held for S&W’s actions during the Clinton era are for an influence that, for a decade or more, no longer exists.


54 posted on 06/15/2015 4:45:10 AM PDT by xander
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To: tumblindice

It’s been my experience that it does not feed HP’s reliably. The feed ramp is too steep and the HPs, especially SilverTips, are shorter than ball. Jamming occurs.

Don’t know if it can be corrected by a smith or not. I never inquired.


55 posted on 06/15/2015 4:58:43 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: jsanders2001

Yes we do. Why? Muzzies. Lots of ‘em.

.... And lots of “dindus”


56 posted on 06/15/2015 5:04:13 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (<><><>No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Spktyr
I remember that, too. Bill Ruger seemed ready to pull the rug out from under the 2A. That's when they began their “responsible gun owner” mantra in order to disassociate themselves from whomever the government might deem irresponsible.

Don't forget that Bushmaster also took advantage of that fear mongering as well. They began price gouging and dishonoring pre-94AWB purchasing with freezes and price hikes.

57 posted on 06/15/2015 5:05:34 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: tumblindice

What do you mean by “too many safety features” on Rugers?


58 posted on 06/15/2015 5:11:46 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panels.)
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To: Spktyr

From the ubiquitous Wikipedia:
“Colt Defense LLC ... was split off from Colt’s Manufacturing Company in 2002 in order to focus on the military, law enforcement and security markets.”

So ... this is not the entire company but rather the contract-less defense operation and it makes sense that they would withdraw life support and issue a DNR.

AFAICT, Colt manufacturing continues to stumble along.


59 posted on 06/15/2015 6:26:14 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (I love it when we're Cruz'in together)
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To: MasterGunner01
I agree about Colt messing around with the Sporter. BTW DPMS now makes an M-16 bolt. Works well.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/dpms-ar-15-m16-bolt-carrier-and-bolt-assembly?a=369255

60 posted on 06/15/2015 6:39:19 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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