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Israeli archaeologists find 3,000-year-old inscription of name from Bible [Psalms 85]
Fox News ^ | 6/16/2015 | Staff

Posted on 06/16/2015 10:25:52 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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Biblical Name Eshbaal Found Outside of the Bible


21 posted on 06/16/2015 3:19:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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Biblical Name Eshbaal Found Outside of the Bible




22 posted on 06/16/2015 3:20:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Thanks for the information.


23 posted on 06/16/2015 3:27:44 PM PDT by DrDude (Does anyone have a set of balls anymore?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I have seen that explanation before for the Ishba'al/Ishbosheth variation--it makes sense after the name Ba'al came to be seen as that of a false god that the redactors of the historical material would want to suppress the -ba'al element.

The Ten Commandments include "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" as if the other gods exist, but Yahweh must be honored and worshipped above the others.

Carthage was a colony of the Phoenician city Tyre--a lot of Carthaginian personal names have the element -bal in them (Hannibal, Hasdrubal, etc.), which is the same as the Hebrew Ba'al.

24 posted on 06/16/2015 5:50:42 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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I have seen that explanation before for the Ishba'al/Ishbosheth variation--it makes sense after the name Ba'al came to be seen as that of a false god that the redactors of the historical material would want to suppress the -ba'al element.

The only part where I think I disagree with you is the suggestion that the name Baal was not associated with a false god until after Saul's time. The Israelites strayed after Baal even before entering the promised land (Numbers 25); continued after they were in Canaan, before Saul's time (Judges 3:7, many others); and were still committing the same sin after Saul's time (I Kings 18:16-40). So if you're implying that Saul didn't know what he was doing when he gave one son a YHWH-based name and one son a Baal-based name, I have to disagree.

Sorry, FRiend, but politicians weren't any different then than now. Saul was the first King the Israelities ever had, and we know from elsewhere in I Samuel that he was concerned (paranoid, in fact) about being replaced or overthrown. So I believe he was trying to curry favor with every element of the population. Hence the redactors' "shame."

25 posted on 06/16/2015 8:49:43 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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26 posted on 06/17/2015 9:24:51 AM PDT by SJackson (an emotional nation, not a rational nation. You work from your gut and not your mind, BHO on Israel)
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First Person: Banning Ba’al
March/April 2016
Biblical Archaeology Review
Hershel Shanks
04/04/2016
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-artifacts/inscriptions/first-person-banning-baal/

[snip] Was the proper name Eshbaal—man of Ba’al—banned in Judah after King David’s time? A recent analysis suggests that it was. [/snip]


27 posted on 04/13/2016 12:58:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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