Posted on 06/17/2015 6:47:07 PM PDT by Prolixus
So far all I see is the same speculation I saw in Ferguson by the libs without any grand jury testimony, autopsy report, internal investigation report, anything except grand speculation and sob stories to a hungry media from gang supporters with a vested interest to make LEO look bad and them innocent and pure. I am not in favor of police gunning down citizens, suspicious or not, but how about waiting for all the reports before jumping to the Saint Cossack and Virgin Bandido narrative.
How many login IDs do you have, TG?
1. NONE on FR are claiming that the Bandidos are saints. However, MANY on FR (such as yourself) claim there are.
2. Until the day of May 17, the Cossacks were off the official radar as a "criminal" gang, however they were ON the radar in Waco as being subject to harassment by Bandidos. You can look it up if you're not too lazy to do so.
3. The overwhelming majority of people arrested for "criminal conspiracy" and held on million-dollar bonds have absolutely ZERO criminal record.
If that last point doesn't make you question the LEO/MSM narrative (which are one and the same), then you are out of touch with reality when it comes to Harley riders in America and the clubs they belong to.
Thank you for the synopsis.
Even if it later turns out to be not 100% accurate it’s nice to get a beginning-to-end overview.
Please feel free to expand, as new info comes out!
Pablo Escobar built clinics and soccer fields.
Conventional Wisdom: The Bandidos control the north-South drug corridors in TX.
Knowing this, it stands to reason that they have a ton of money to throw around. I believe (tentatively, 6/18) that elements in the Waco PD may be tainted by that money.
We should draw up a pool and whoever's theory is correct wins.
Law enforcement, either under-cover or overt or both, dominated by Feds using local PD only as support/fall guys, led BOTH Cossacks and Bandidos to believe that they would not interfere if these guys decided to resolve their beefs of territory the old fashioned way, via hand-to-hand fighting.
As someone pointed out (and having worked in a small biker-type bar once I had to use a broom, literally, to drive two huge beefy battling bikers, Nacho and Nasty [I kid you not!] and their fight outside before they broke anything), fights are regular occurrences at halfway rowdy bars, always have been, and God willin', always will be. Guns have been around for almost as long as barfights have, yet guns are very rarely wielded in them. Bar fights have sure erupted in my presence (soft spot for seedy dives in my yute, and I grew up in a rowdy town). They usually represent guys making asses of each other and providing great entertainment for onlookers.
BECAUSE according to a witness: A bunch of Bandidos, truly bad-ass dudes who had been harassing and attacking members of the Cossack club, drove right past a bunch of marked cop cars into the parking lot, where a bunch of Cossacks, who could just as easily see ALL the cop cars, were waiting with brass knuckles and batons. They engaged in a fight IN PLAIN SIGHT of all those cop cars.
Then somebody fired a pistol. Supposedly a biker who just chose to ignore all that visible law enforcement. Like hell! I bet it was an undercover officer pretending to be a Cossack. Odd that although the Bandidos are truly bad dudes and that's easy to confirm, according to early reports, MOST of the dead were Cossacks, only one Bandido, and still not sure on that.
For now, I think it was a set-up, at least one club (Cossacks) if not two (Bandidos as well) were lied to by LEO, and LEO set it up. Also I saw someone observe only halfway tongue-in-cheek that while pretty much all the clubs at the meeting were enthusiast clubs, Cossacks might be considered a "criminal" biker gang because "there are a lot of cops in that club."
I also think that in the weeks/month that followed, the two-thirds of innocent folks arrested were subjected to passive-aggressive tactics (keeping them in zip-tie handcuffs overnight, for example) to drive them to rebel and riot. Then LEO would really have an easy time of painting them as hardened criminals. That guys like Clendennen kept their cool reveals IMO the hand of God operating here.
I agree with you, it seems like a lot of innocent folks were detained and held way beyond what seems reasonable (or even possibly legal), but then again, I'm not being detained, nor you, because we are smart enough not to be around when stupid crap goes down. My dad rode with the Blue Knights, I love to ride too, but I don't associate or identify with these people just because they ride Harleys. And I'm not about to give them the benefit of the doubt.
So my original point still stands, I was only commenting to the guy Boomer about his snarky remark to QuisCustodiet1776, in that anyone who is a "supporter" (the subject of the original article) of an OMG really needs to be looked at as a criminal associate. Granted, Quis's calling him scum was inflammatory and his kill him comment was hyperbole at its finest. I wasn't refuting anything you had said about the detention of innocents. Peace
Thanks for thee link.
You said “Sinhalese” earlier; damn autocorrect, I assume.
I would say that it is the Waco Police Department, for one. If I was him, I would have someone start my car in the morning.
Funny. That's exactly how leftists feel about you.
Here no buildings were burned down, No children were burned alive. Somewhere, Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno are smiling on how well the coverup story was believed by the general public. And somewhere deep in the bowels of hell Josef Gerbles is smiling on how well his slogan of “If you shout a lie loud enough and often enough, people will believe it.” This incident amply illustrates that concept.
And that is how I feel about leftist.
So what?
Why is anyone on this forum supporting these asshats?
Substitute ‘bandido’ for muslim, or child molester or rapist and everyone would agree with me.
Well the fact is, Bandidos deal drugs and like to gang rape underage girls. They like to beat to death anyone who ‘disrespects’ them - as long as they outnumber them 10 to 1. They are the scum of the earth.
FU2
Why is anyone on this forum supporting these asshats?
Substitute ‘bandido’ for muslim, or child molester or rapist and everyone would agree with me.
Well the fact is, Bandidos deal drugs and like to gang rape underage girls. They like to beat to death anyone who ‘disrespects’ them - as long as they outnumber them 10 to 1. They are the scum of the earth. And you are an idiot if you think they are somehow different from your typical black or Hispanic gang.
I don’t have a ‘mama bear’ gutter boy. I have a wife.
Why is anyone on this forum supporting these asshats?
Substitute ‘bandido’ for muslim, or child molester or rapist and everyone would agree with me.
Well the fact is, Bandidos deal drugs and like to gang rape underage girls. They like to beat to death anyone who ‘disrespects’ them - as long as they outnumber them 10 to 1. They are the scum of the earth. And you are an idiot if you think they are somehow different from your typical black or Hispanic gang.
Jeez, I see groups of men EVERY day I don’t like (Democrats ) but I don’t fight or shoot them. They, however, always threaten me with government repurcussions.
Delete your tagline. Then pi$$ off.
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