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Charleston Mother Emanuel AME Church Shooting – Discussion Thread…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 18, 2015 | sundance

Posted on 06/18/2015 3:13:35 AM PDT by Bratch

A man walks into a church and shoots nine people dead; that’s terrorism regardless of race.  If the shooting was based on race, then it’s a racist hate crime and terrorism, period.

The number one objective of everyone in law enforcement should be to catch the mass murder suspect and bring him to trial.  As currently described that suspect is: “A 21-year-old, white male, with sandy blonde hair, clean shaven, wearing Timberland boots, jeans and a grey hoodie“.  Every resource should be deployed to catch that criminal.

“Every resource” includes the principle that this horrific crime should be treated with the same intensity as the Boston Marathon bombing.   Every resource in the arsenal of local, state and federal law enforcement should be immediately dispatched to catch this person, period.


Unfortunately, this horrible event will focus attention in many divergent directions based solely on the current environment permeating the national dialogue; and as a consequence of manipulative activists who relish anxiety to advance their various causes.

For those who have intensely followed the evolution of that manipulation for the past several years, the brutal event in Charlotte carries a set of additional aspects which ring immediate alarm bells.   Taken individually none of the aspects seem too controversial; however, when you put them together something else begins to assemble.

WIPING CLEAR THE WHITE BOARD – Just the facts:

♦  One of the first set of facts about the event that is immediately recognizable is the location, the Mother Emanuel AME Church of Charlotte.

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There are 10 AME churches within a mile in any direction of the Emanuel AME church.  The shooter chose this specific one.

Anyone who has spent time deconstructing fraudulent racial narratives over the past few years will immediately recognize, and admit, the AME church network is the most politically -and racially- connected network of affiliates in the nation.

The AME network is the faith based power structure for the professional Black Grievance Industry.

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• When Pigford I and Pigford II claims were constructed, publicized and paid, it was the AME network who did the heavy lifting to promote the programs on behalf of their constituents – entirely along racial lines.

• When Sanford Florida was organizing their activism against the city and justice system, in the Trayvon Martin shooting, it was the AME church network who organized the community – entirely along racial lines.

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• When Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin did their coast to coast tour to promote Justice for Trayvon with Reverend Al Sharpton, it was the AME church network that hosted the events and filled the trashcans with contributions.

• When Ferguson riots broke out, it was the AME church network who were at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

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• When the Baltimore riots broke out, it was again the AME church network, Reverend Jamal Bryant, who was at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

The AME church network, and the associated leadership within the construct, is extremely politically connected.   Many of the social justice warriors, the social engineers, the social activists, weave in and out of the AME affiliations as needed; including activist financier Russell Simmons – entirely along racial lines.

In short the national AME church network is a powerful and political activist forum based solely and completely along racial lines.  Decades of influence, and decades of organizational activism has left them sparsely connected to their religious, or faith based, origins.  The AME larger network is now almost exclusively a political enterprise operating under the guise of Methodist Episcopal faith-based teaching.

♦  Coincidentally, or not, yesterday Hillary Clinton was campaigning in South Carolina, North Charleston specifically, for this very specific constituency.   The pastor of the exact church selected by the gunman was at a campaign event with Hillary for this purpose.

On a campaign stop in the city Wednesday, Clinton spoke passionately about police violence, calling Scott’s death a “terrible tragedy.” She left the city before the shooting occurred, a campaign aide confirmed.

Pastor Pinckney returned after the event to the AME church, where Bible study was underway Wednesday around 9:00 p.m. local time when the shooting occurred (link)

Pastor Clementa C. Pinckney (42) was one of the shooting victims, as reported by media.

BREAKING: State Sen. & Rev. Clementa Pinckney Among Shooting Victims at Charleston Church - http://t.co/vuiOxFg43L pic.twitter.com/M5wvYRPjQY

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network we can expect this horrific shooting to be magnified by infinite magnitudes amid those who are skilled in the dark arts of professional grievance and race-based activism.

Rev. Clements Pinckney, a SC legislator is among the 9 killed in SC church. I am reminded that he helped lead our prayer vigil for Scott.

— Reverend Al Sharpton (@TheRevAl) June 18, 2015

Reverend Al Sharpton Is Headed To Charleston, National Action Network Confirms

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network of political influence we can also expect this horrific shooting to be amplified by responses of those who hold political office from coast to coast.

And when you add into the mix the current climate of racial division being utilized by the media and the professionally aggrieved for profit and ideological advancement you can begin to see how explosive the situation will be in the days, weeks and possibly even months to come.

Much of that anticipatory outcome we previously outlined, even before last nights’ horrific events, in the predictive discussions around Baltimore (Freddie Gray) and North Charleston (Walter Scott). ~ HERE ‘Danger Will Robinson’

That is why capturing this shooter is of paramount importance.  There is much at stake if our nation is to head off a summer of race-based anxiety, pushing toward violence.  And it bothers us that President Obama and Eric Holder intentionally allowed Ferguson to burn after they knew on August 18th 2014, within 10 days of the Mike Brown shooting, the evidence supported Officer Darren Wilson 100%.

THE SHOOTING – A young man walks into a church and successfully shoots and kills 9 people, intentionally leaving a single person to bear witness.  Why?

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If this report is factually true, surely people will begin to wonder “why”.  What possible benefit (to the shooter) is there to leaving a witness?  Why would the shooter be committed to leaving a witness “so she could tell everyone what happened“?  Who benefits?

Assuming the man was not holding a semi-automatic long gun, which would have alarmed the congregants, we can essentially conclude he was in possession of a handgun of sorts.

Successfully shooting, and killing, 9 out of 10 people – with a handgun – and no surviving victims, is considerably more difficult than is seen via Hollywood or TV.  People run quickly in the face of threats, people move, people generally scatter.

Successfully disappearing after the event, and evading capture, is even more alarming.

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The police Chief, Gregory Mullen, stated the shooting began at 9:05pm.   By 9:35 the first twitter reports of a mass casualty shooting showed police swarming the area.

The same police chief immediately identified the shooting as a “hate crime”; we can assume based on information provided by the surviving witness.

Mullen also said the shooter was “21-years-old”, and wearing “Timberland” boots.  Again, two very specific identifiable details inferring witness ID.

An unconfirmed source said there was a meeting of AME network leadership prior to the Bible Study which began at 9:05pm.  The shooter had to anticipate a gathering of sorts, which implies local affiliation, or extensive research into the venue.   A quick review of the Emanuel AME calendar on their website would not identify any event, and their Facebook page has not been updated since February 11th, 2015.

If we assume the racist/terrorist motive, which we have no reason not to, how did the shooter know he would find his victims at 9:00pm – in this specific location?

Lots of questions, and if they don’t ID a suspect quickly – it would appear to be very thought out, disciplined, and professionally executed.   Yet the shooter went to the non-professional trouble of intentionally leaving a witness to ID him.  It seems like there’s a bigger agenda in here.

All very troubling.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
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1 posted on 06/18/2015 3:13:35 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

I’d read on another thread that they released a pic of the killer. Anyone see that yet?


2 posted on 06/18/2015 3:14:58 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: Bratch

Tell me there is no race war ongoing in the US.


3 posted on 06/18/2015 3:21:45 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: Bratch

Photo released and the suspect’s hair cut is definitely going to get him caught. Someone will be calling police very soon.


4 posted on 06/18/2015 3:22:38 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: RandallFlagg

It was a mistake. A journalist was picked up based on the description because he was at a hotel where the bomb threat was called. He was released afterwards.


5 posted on 06/18/2015 3:24:42 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Sort of goofy bowl cut brown hair, loose clothing. Odd looking.


6 posted on 06/18/2015 3:25:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RandallFlagg

Photo was released this morning at 6 am but I can’t post because I am on my iPhone and this site makes it near impossible to do so.

Look up WCSC news station for the photo and updates from the press conference this morning.


7 posted on 06/18/2015 3:25:56 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: RandallFlagg

8 posted on 06/18/2015 3:26:02 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: RandallFlagg

Photo was released this morning at 6 am but I can’t post because I am on my iPhone and this site makes it near impossible to do so.

Look up WCSC news station for the photo and updates from the press conference this morning.


9 posted on 06/18/2015 3:26:07 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; Bratch

Sounds like the shooter was trained by (A) someone’s military, possibly special operations/commando/police/gendarme, or (B) terrorist training camp, be it Muslim, neo-Nazi, Occupy or other or (C) hit man of some sort or (D) self-trained or by a mentor (see Lee Boyd Malvo & John Allen Muhammad) or is a high-level competition shooter.


10 posted on 06/18/2015 3:27:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Bratch; All

This is not going to turn out good...Based upon the nature of that church and its congregation, I would suspect this to rapidly boil over across the nation before the week is out...

How unfortunate...


11 posted on 06/18/2015 3:28:03 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Bratch
the shooting began at 9:05pm. By 9:35 the first twitter reports of a mass casualty shooting showed police swarming the area.

When seconds count, the police are... 30 minutes away.

12 posted on 06/18/2015 3:29:06 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Bratch

Obviously the person has done this in order to incite race war. It is perfectly timed for this, and he wanted them to know it was a white man who did it.

He could be anything, and it’s useless to speculate. Too many people could do it— including state actors like Russia or China. Could be a Muslim convert. Could be many things.

If he’s not captured, and I doubt he will be captured, you can be sure that what follows will be more riots. We will probably see an uptick in black on white crime, which was already on the rise anyhow.


13 posted on 06/18/2015 3:30:04 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Nevermind, looks like there are other photos I was unaware of!


14 posted on 06/18/2015 3:31:32 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Travis McGee

“Every resource” includes the principle that this horrific crime should be treated with the same intensity as the Boston Marathon bombing. Every resource in the arsenal of local, state and federal law enforcement should be immediately dispatched to catch this person, period.


House to house...Curfews, shelter in place, guns pointed at everyone in every window, every vehicle till they find this guy...

Oh boy...Here we go again...


15 posted on 06/18/2015 3:31:39 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Bratch

Not surprised this has happened.


16 posted on 06/18/2015 3:39:39 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Bratch

Organized event. Killer knew about an unpublished prayer event. Hillary connection? Sloppy to leave a witness or with what appears to be a very organized mass murder... The witness is a warning? To who? Maybe Hillary?


17 posted on 06/18/2015 3:39:53 AM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: Bratch

Hope this is not the start of attacks against Christians in this country.


18 posted on 06/18/2015 3:40:23 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

We’ll know if that’s the plan, if this happens again this weekend and if there is another witness.


19 posted on 06/18/2015 3:40:55 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: Bratch

Looks like a wig. On top of a skinhead?


20 posted on 06/18/2015 3:41:55 AM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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