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Charleston Mother Emanuel AME Church Shooting – Discussion Thread…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 18, 2015 | sundance

Posted on 06/18/2015 3:13:35 AM PDT by Bratch

A man walks into a church and shoots nine people dead; that’s terrorism regardless of race.  If the shooting was based on race, then it’s a racist hate crime and terrorism, period.

The number one objective of everyone in law enforcement should be to catch the mass murder suspect and bring him to trial.  As currently described that suspect is: “A 21-year-old, white male, with sandy blonde hair, clean shaven, wearing Timberland boots, jeans and a grey hoodie“.  Every resource should be deployed to catch that criminal.

“Every resource” includes the principle that this horrific crime should be treated with the same intensity as the Boston Marathon bombing.   Every resource in the arsenal of local, state and federal law enforcement should be immediately dispatched to catch this person, period.


Unfortunately, this horrible event will focus attention in many divergent directions based solely on the current environment permeating the national dialogue; and as a consequence of manipulative activists who relish anxiety to advance their various causes.

For those who have intensely followed the evolution of that manipulation for the past several years, the brutal event in Charlotte carries a set of additional aspects which ring immediate alarm bells.   Taken individually none of the aspects seem too controversial; however, when you put them together something else begins to assemble.

WIPING CLEAR THE WHITE BOARD – Just the facts:

♦  One of the first set of facts about the event that is immediately recognizable is the location, the Mother Emanuel AME Church of Charlotte.

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There are 10 AME churches within a mile in any direction of the Emanuel AME church.  The shooter chose this specific one.

Anyone who has spent time deconstructing fraudulent racial narratives over the past few years will immediately recognize, and admit, the AME church network is the most politically -and racially- connected network of affiliates in the nation.

The AME network is the faith based power structure for the professional Black Grievance Industry.

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• When Pigford I and Pigford II claims were constructed, publicized and paid, it was the AME network who did the heavy lifting to promote the programs on behalf of their constituents – entirely along racial lines.

• When Sanford Florida was organizing their activism against the city and justice system, in the Trayvon Martin shooting, it was the AME church network who organized the community – entirely along racial lines.

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• When Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin did their coast to coast tour to promote Justice for Trayvon with Reverend Al Sharpton, it was the AME church network that hosted the events and filled the trashcans with contributions.

• When Ferguson riots broke out, it was the AME church network who were at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

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• When the Baltimore riots broke out, it was again the AME church network, Reverend Jamal Bryant, who was at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

The AME church network, and the associated leadership within the construct, is extremely politically connected.   Many of the social justice warriors, the social engineers, the social activists, weave in and out of the AME affiliations as needed; including activist financier Russell Simmons – entirely along racial lines.

In short the national AME church network is a powerful and political activist forum based solely and completely along racial lines.  Decades of influence, and decades of organizational activism has left them sparsely connected to their religious, or faith based, origins.  The AME larger network is now almost exclusively a political enterprise operating under the guise of Methodist Episcopal faith-based teaching.

♦  Coincidentally, or not, yesterday Hillary Clinton was campaigning in South Carolina, North Charleston specifically, for this very specific constituency.   The pastor of the exact church selected by the gunman was at a campaign event with Hillary for this purpose.

On a campaign stop in the city Wednesday, Clinton spoke passionately about police violence, calling Scott’s death a “terrible tragedy.” She left the city before the shooting occurred, a campaign aide confirmed.

Pastor Pinckney returned after the event to the AME church, where Bible study was underway Wednesday around 9:00 p.m. local time when the shooting occurred (link)

Pastor Clementa C. Pinckney (42) was one of the shooting victims, as reported by media.

BREAKING: State Sen. & Rev. Clementa Pinckney Among Shooting Victims at Charleston Church - http://t.co/vuiOxFg43L pic.twitter.com/M5wvYRPjQY

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network we can expect this horrific shooting to be magnified by infinite magnitudes amid those who are skilled in the dark arts of professional grievance and race-based activism.

Rev. Clements Pinckney, a SC legislator is among the 9 killed in SC church. I am reminded that he helped lead our prayer vigil for Scott.

— Reverend Al Sharpton (@TheRevAl) June 18, 2015

Reverend Al Sharpton Is Headed To Charleston, National Action Network Confirms

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network of political influence we can also expect this horrific shooting to be amplified by responses of those who hold political office from coast to coast.

And when you add into the mix the current climate of racial division being utilized by the media and the professionally aggrieved for profit and ideological advancement you can begin to see how explosive the situation will be in the days, weeks and possibly even months to come.

Much of that anticipatory outcome we previously outlined, even before last nights’ horrific events, in the predictive discussions around Baltimore (Freddie Gray) and North Charleston (Walter Scott). ~ HERE ‘Danger Will Robinson’

That is why capturing this shooter is of paramount importance.  There is much at stake if our nation is to head off a summer of race-based anxiety, pushing toward violence.  And it bothers us that President Obama and Eric Holder intentionally allowed Ferguson to burn after they knew on August 18th 2014, within 10 days of the Mike Brown shooting, the evidence supported Officer Darren Wilson 100%.

THE SHOOTING – A young man walks into a church and successfully shoots and kills 9 people, intentionally leaving a single person to bear witness.  Why?

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If this report is factually true, surely people will begin to wonder “why”.  What possible benefit (to the shooter) is there to leaving a witness?  Why would the shooter be committed to leaving a witness “so she could tell everyone what happened“?  Who benefits?

Assuming the man was not holding a semi-automatic long gun, which would have alarmed the congregants, we can essentially conclude he was in possession of a handgun of sorts.

Successfully shooting, and killing, 9 out of 10 people – with a handgun – and no surviving victims, is considerably more difficult than is seen via Hollywood or TV.  People run quickly in the face of threats, people move, people generally scatter.

Successfully disappearing after the event, and evading capture, is even more alarming.

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The police Chief, Gregory Mullen, stated the shooting began at 9:05pm.   By 9:35 the first twitter reports of a mass casualty shooting showed police swarming the area.

The same police chief immediately identified the shooting as a “hate crime”; we can assume based on information provided by the surviving witness.

Mullen also said the shooter was “21-years-old”, and wearing “Timberland” boots.  Again, two very specific identifiable details inferring witness ID.

An unconfirmed source said there was a meeting of AME network leadership prior to the Bible Study which began at 9:05pm.  The shooter had to anticipate a gathering of sorts, which implies local affiliation, or extensive research into the venue.   A quick review of the Emanuel AME calendar on their website would not identify any event, and their Facebook page has not been updated since February 11th, 2015.

If we assume the racist/terrorist motive, which we have no reason not to, how did the shooter know he would find his victims at 9:00pm – in this specific location?

Lots of questions, and if they don’t ID a suspect quickly – it would appear to be very thought out, disciplined, and professionally executed.   Yet the shooter went to the non-professional trouble of intentionally leaving a witness to ID him.  It seems like there’s a bigger agenda in here.

All very troubling.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
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To: Biggirl
Hope this is not the start of attacks against Christians in this country.

I expect the m00selimbs to conduct those attacks.
21 posted on 06/18/2015 3:45:28 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: Old Sarge

Ping


22 posted on 06/18/2015 3:45:31 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah they’re holding a lot of info.


23 posted on 06/18/2015 3:48:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: RandallFlagg

Not surprised that this happened, as it was inevitable that some nut job would do this. It is likely that authorities will find out it is a reaction to all the black rioting without any real repurcussion.


24 posted on 06/18/2015 3:48:37 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: weston

Yes, to me that funky hairdo does look like it might be wig.

Little information is coming out, and I feel the authorities are holding back.


25 posted on 06/18/2015 3:49:49 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: cripplecreek

It wouldn’t have happened that way at most white evangelical or charismatic churches, because the leadership, deacons/trustees/elders or whatever they might be called and the ushers are usually armed.


26 posted on 06/18/2015 3:53:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Bratch

Reverend Al Sharpton Is Headed To Charleston, National Action Network Confirms

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Just what Charleston needs, Al Sharpton and his hate parade.


27 posted on 06/18/2015 3:54:18 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Old Yeller
I expect the m00selimbs to conduct those attacks.

I strongly suspect it was a Muslim who did the shooting. They were organizing in Ferguson during the protests. They want to divide the country into as many factions as possible.

28 posted on 06/18/2015 3:57:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lots of armed black churches as well.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3274912/posts


29 posted on 06/18/2015 3:58:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Bratch

Color me crazy, but he looks more like he has an Indonesian or Phillipino coloring.


30 posted on 06/18/2015 4:02:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: weston

FOX NEWS
“...white gunman walked in during a prayer meeting and began shooting in what authorities described as a hate crime. Police described the suspect as wearing a gray sweatshirt with blue jeans and Timberland boots

Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C. posted a series of Twitter message about the tragedy. “My heart is breaking for Charleston and South Carolina tonight,” one of them read.”


31 posted on 06/18/2015 4:08:34 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: null and void; Nachum; Kartographer; LucyT; butterdezillion; INVAR; Dick Bachert; GOPJ; BCW; ...
H/T to our FRiend Bratch for the post, and FreedomPoster for the heads-up.

Mass-casualty event involving guns: check.
White-on-black crime: check.
High-profile target (the race grievance industry center of mass): check.

SOMEONE just handed the Leftists a buffet-style dinner of Crisis, with a side order of Race Card.

For thus has the Lord said unto me:
“Go, set a watchman, Let him declare what he sees.”
Isaiah 21:6

The Watchman Ping List - FReepmail Old Sarge for details!

32 posted on 06/18/2015 4:11:06 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Bratch

Doesn’t look like he’s carrying a lot of weaponry. One, maybe two handguns.

It took so long for the first responders to get there, that his victims probably bled out. One 9mm with 10 to 15 hp rounds could do that, if the shooter made every round hit a vital organ. Shooter would have to be an expert for that.

Hair definitely looks like a wig.

Skin color is not lily white.


33 posted on 06/18/2015 4:13:01 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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Color me crazy, but he looks more like he has an Indonesian or Phillipino coloring.

He looks like a 12 year old. Looks like another Newtown.

34 posted on 06/18/2015 4:14:13 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Bratch
This isn't a complicated situation.Step #1...catch him.Step #2...try him,with a jury made up of black *and* white.Step #3...convict him on all counts except the “hate crime” counts.Step #4...put him down (nine times).
35 posted on 06/18/2015 4:15:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's Ambulance Chaser-In-Chief)
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To: Ann Archy
Appears to be pulling a semi-auto from behind his back, with his left hand. "Color me crazy, but he looks more like he has an Indonesian or Phillipino coloring."
36 posted on 06/18/2015 4:16:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Sarge, I don't care what happens this weekend. It is immaterial.

I think there is a race war ongoing right now. Most of the action, so far, has been black on white. Please note the "knockout game" that has been going on for years. Within the past year or so groups of out of control blacks have been rioting in just about every city in the US. That sort of think happens every day. Then you have the microbattles.

We only hear about the microbattles when the whites push back. This happened in Florida (Zimmermann/the sainted Trayvon), Ferguson, McKinney, and other places.

This will not end well. It will not end at all while Mr. Obama is president.

37 posted on 06/18/2015 4:17:24 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: Old Yeller

....along with the federal government.


38 posted on 06/18/2015 4:18:36 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: smoothsailing

“Just what Charleston needs, Al Sharpton and his hate parade.”

He among others will try to hold all of “White America” responsible.


39 posted on 06/18/2015 4:18:37 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: KeyLargo

He looks darker then Dolezal.


40 posted on 06/18/2015 4:22:19 AM PDT by Kozak (Walker / Cruz 2016 or Cruz/ Walker 2016 Either one is good...)
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