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Charleston Mother Emanuel AME Church Shooting – Discussion Thread…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 18, 2015 | sundance

Posted on 06/18/2015 3:13:35 AM PDT by Bratch

A man walks into a church and shoots nine people dead; that’s terrorism regardless of race.  If the shooting was based on race, then it’s a racist hate crime and terrorism, period.

The number one objective of everyone in law enforcement should be to catch the mass murder suspect and bring him to trial.  As currently described that suspect is: “A 21-year-old, white male, with sandy blonde hair, clean shaven, wearing Timberland boots, jeans and a grey hoodie“.  Every resource should be deployed to catch that criminal.

“Every resource” includes the principle that this horrific crime should be treated with the same intensity as the Boston Marathon bombing.   Every resource in the arsenal of local, state and federal law enforcement should be immediately dispatched to catch this person, period.


Unfortunately, this horrible event will focus attention in many divergent directions based solely on the current environment permeating the national dialogue; and as a consequence of manipulative activists who relish anxiety to advance their various causes.

For those who have intensely followed the evolution of that manipulation for the past several years, the brutal event in Charlotte carries a set of additional aspects which ring immediate alarm bells.   Taken individually none of the aspects seem too controversial; however, when you put them together something else begins to assemble.

WIPING CLEAR THE WHITE BOARD – Just the facts:

♦  One of the first set of facts about the event that is immediately recognizable is the location, the Mother Emanuel AME Church of Charlotte.

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There are 10 AME churches within a mile in any direction of the Emanuel AME church.  The shooter chose this specific one.

Anyone who has spent time deconstructing fraudulent racial narratives over the past few years will immediately recognize, and admit, the AME church network is the most politically -and racially- connected network of affiliates in the nation.

The AME network is the faith based power structure for the professional Black Grievance Industry.

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• When Pigford I and Pigford II claims were constructed, publicized and paid, it was the AME network who did the heavy lifting to promote the programs on behalf of their constituents – entirely along racial lines.

• When Sanford Florida was organizing their activism against the city and justice system, in the Trayvon Martin shooting, it was the AME church network who organized the community – entirely along racial lines.

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• When Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin did their coast to coast tour to promote Justice for Trayvon with Reverend Al Sharpton, it was the AME church network that hosted the events and filled the trashcans with contributions.

• When Ferguson riots broke out, it was the AME church network who were at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

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• When the Baltimore riots broke out, it was again the AME church network, Reverend Jamal Bryant, who was at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

The AME church network, and the associated leadership within the construct, is extremely politically connected.   Many of the social justice warriors, the social engineers, the social activists, weave in and out of the AME affiliations as needed; including activist financier Russell Simmons – entirely along racial lines.

In short the national AME church network is a powerful and political activist forum based solely and completely along racial lines.  Decades of influence, and decades of organizational activism has left them sparsely connected to their religious, or faith based, origins.  The AME larger network is now almost exclusively a political enterprise operating under the guise of Methodist Episcopal faith-based teaching.

♦  Coincidentally, or not, yesterday Hillary Clinton was campaigning in South Carolina, North Charleston specifically, for this very specific constituency.   The pastor of the exact church selected by the gunman was at a campaign event with Hillary for this purpose.

On a campaign stop in the city Wednesday, Clinton spoke passionately about police violence, calling Scott’s death a “terrible tragedy.” She left the city before the shooting occurred, a campaign aide confirmed.

Pastor Pinckney returned after the event to the AME church, where Bible study was underway Wednesday around 9:00 p.m. local time when the shooting occurred (link)

Pastor Clementa C. Pinckney (42) was one of the shooting victims, as reported by media.

BREAKING: State Sen. & Rev. Clementa Pinckney Among Shooting Victims at Charleston Church - http://t.co/vuiOxFg43L pic.twitter.com/M5wvYRPjQY

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network we can expect this horrific shooting to be magnified by infinite magnitudes amid those who are skilled in the dark arts of professional grievance and race-based activism.

Rev. Clements Pinckney, a SC legislator is among the 9 killed in SC church. I am reminded that he helped lead our prayer vigil for Scott.

— Reverend Al Sharpton (@TheRevAl) June 18, 2015

Reverend Al Sharpton Is Headed To Charleston, National Action Network Confirms

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network of political influence we can also expect this horrific shooting to be amplified by responses of those who hold political office from coast to coast.

And when you add into the mix the current climate of racial division being utilized by the media and the professionally aggrieved for profit and ideological advancement you can begin to see how explosive the situation will be in the days, weeks and possibly even months to come.

Much of that anticipatory outcome we previously outlined, even before last nights’ horrific events, in the predictive discussions around Baltimore (Freddie Gray) and North Charleston (Walter Scott). ~ HERE ‘Danger Will Robinson’

That is why capturing this shooter is of paramount importance.  There is much at stake if our nation is to head off a summer of race-based anxiety, pushing toward violence.  And it bothers us that President Obama and Eric Holder intentionally allowed Ferguson to burn after they knew on August 18th 2014, within 10 days of the Mike Brown shooting, the evidence supported Officer Darren Wilson 100%.

THE SHOOTING – A young man walks into a church and successfully shoots and kills 9 people, intentionally leaving a single person to bear witness.  Why?

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If this report is factually true, surely people will begin to wonder “why”.  What possible benefit (to the shooter) is there to leaving a witness?  Why would the shooter be committed to leaving a witness “so she could tell everyone what happened“?  Who benefits?

Assuming the man was not holding a semi-automatic long gun, which would have alarmed the congregants, we can essentially conclude he was in possession of a handgun of sorts.

Successfully shooting, and killing, 9 out of 10 people – with a handgun – and no surviving victims, is considerably more difficult than is seen via Hollywood or TV.  People run quickly in the face of threats, people move, people generally scatter.

Successfully disappearing after the event, and evading capture, is even more alarming.

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The police Chief, Gregory Mullen, stated the shooting began at 9:05pm.   By 9:35 the first twitter reports of a mass casualty shooting showed police swarming the area.

The same police chief immediately identified the shooting as a “hate crime”; we can assume based on information provided by the surviving witness.

Mullen also said the shooter was “21-years-old”, and wearing “Timberland” boots.  Again, two very specific identifiable details inferring witness ID.

An unconfirmed source said there was a meeting of AME network leadership prior to the Bible Study which began at 9:05pm.  The shooter had to anticipate a gathering of sorts, which implies local affiliation, or extensive research into the venue.   A quick review of the Emanuel AME calendar on their website would not identify any event, and their Facebook page has not been updated since February 11th, 2015.

If we assume the racist/terrorist motive, which we have no reason not to, how did the shooter know he would find his victims at 9:00pm – in this specific location?

Lots of questions, and if they don’t ID a suspect quickly – it would appear to be very thought out, disciplined, and professionally executed.   Yet the shooter went to the non-professional trouble of intentionally leaving a witness to ID him.  It seems like there’s a bigger agenda in here.

All very troubling.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
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To: Bratch
The mayor of Charleston keeps using the word "unspeakable". Unspeakable should be reserved for the truly unspeakable crimes which the mainstream media absolutely refuses to speak about.
41 posted on 06/18/2015 4:22:22 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Bratch

Hmmm... Police state killer is blond white guy but the photos show a brown haired Arab....


42 posted on 06/18/2015 4:28:28 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Old Sarge

If the photo of him that the police released is correct that I just saw on Free Republic. Then this is not a White guy,


43 posted on 06/18/2015 4:29:54 AM PDT by sport
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
"Obviously the person has done this in order to incite race war."

Really? How do you know that? You are imputing rational motives to this act. Maybe he is just insane. Maybe he is a recent victim of black privilege (affirmative action). Maybe he was a victim of black on white crime and he got his revenge.

"he wanted them to know it was a white man who did it."

We don't know if he is "white". Besides, what is "white" anymore? Maybe he is a putative white man who identifies as black.

"He could be anything, and it’s useless to speculate. Too many people could do it— including state actors like Russia or China. Could be a Muslim convert. Could be many things."

"If he’s not captured, and I doubt he will be captured, you can be sure that what follows will be more riots. We will probably see an uptick in black on white crime, which was already on the rise anyhow."

These statements I can agree with.

44 posted on 06/18/2015 4:30:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: Bratch

Looks more olive skinned to me...


45 posted on 06/18/2015 4:30:49 AM PDT by bike800
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To: RandallFlagg

White, male, blond hair, even a photo. That was really quick. Amazing how fast they can be about releasing information when they want to. I think the suspect looks gay.


46 posted on 06/18/2015 4:35:58 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: RandallFlagg

shooter has a female looking Prince Valiant looking bowl cut, dark hair- bad haircut or bad wig

he doesn’t look like McCauley Caulkin if you catch the drift

do respectable white thug psychos in preppy logo sweaters still wear Timberland boots? or more like Doc Martens


47 posted on 06/18/2015 4:39:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
terrorist training camp, be it Muslim,

It is the beginning of Ramadan.

ONLY the beginning....

48 posted on 06/18/2015 4:40:38 AM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: weston; All

Looks like the nose is part of those novelty glasses you get at county fairs...

The sweater looks to be a throw away, since the weather didn’t call for warmth...

Car looks to have a “rental” front plate placard...The logo doesn’t come out very clear...

No gloves on his hands, when he reaches for the door handle...Fingerprints???

Find the throw away sweater, baggy pants, shoes (boots)m can lead to other surveillance images...If those items are scattered, and not all in one place, this can be evaluated as an extremely well planned incident...

Jumping to the “hate” crime phrase is not helping...

Just my observations...


49 posted on 06/18/2015 4:40:55 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; Greetings_Puny_Humans
"he wanted them to know it was a white man who did it."

THAT alone tells me this was a deliberate act to fan the flames of race war.

If the shooter was a light-skinned mulatto, or a Caucasian Muslim (think the Zharnaevs), the drive-by media would autocorrect it to be WHITE.

Nine kill shots with no wounded?
At a meeting that was not publicly announced?
With a survivor left among a room full of activists?

False Flag.

50 posted on 06/18/2015 4:41:48 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

You have seen, and observed well, Grasshopper.


51 posted on 06/18/2015 4:42:52 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: EBH

Watch Hillary jump at the opportunity that will give her a boost in the campaign...

I would not put it past her and her handlers...Watch and see...


52 posted on 06/18/2015 4:43:05 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Dead or alive, pinning this actor down will answer a lot of questions as soon as they are identified...

Affiliations, associations...etc etc etc...


53 posted on 06/18/2015 4:47:42 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Seems too competent to be irrational, and the fact he left a witness alive on purpose means he wanted it known his involvement, even if his name wasn’t out.

Hard to imagine your regular mass shooter type was involved in this.


54 posted on 06/18/2015 4:50:35 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Watch Hillary jump at the opportunity that will give her a boost in the campaign.

Oh, noes. Ya'll doesn't think that the hildabutchbitch would make a political event out of a black tragedy, does' younz?

She cares about people like you and me.

55 posted on 06/18/2015 4:51:57 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: stevie_d_64
See post 50.

Lots of false flags these days. Too many.

This kind of stuff has been going on since April 19, 1995, if not long before.

56 posted on 06/18/2015 4:52:00 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: All

“...a woman was allowed to leave to “tell the world” what had happened.”

Seems very revealing to me about the motivations of this suspect...

I would surmise this is not a realistic act of a “hate” crime...

Like a few people are coming to grips with this are saying, this looks contrived to destabilize the country on religious and racial lines...

Who does this benefit???


57 posted on 06/18/2015 4:57:34 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: stevie_d_64

No. I am thinking the Senator/Rev. Being killed was a warning to Hillary or the AME to stay in line.


58 posted on 06/18/2015 4:58:20 AM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“We don’t know if he is “white”. Besides, what is “white” anymore?”

Yep, Zimmerman = ‘White Hispanic’ according to MSM’s view.


59 posted on 06/18/2015 5:08:37 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I smell the stink of spooks and false flag.


60 posted on 06/18/2015 5:08:59 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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