Ted Cruz: No, TPP is NOT a ‘living agreement’

The Right Scoop ^ | Jun 12, 2015

[SoConPubbie]

"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton "We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan "A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." - Thomas Paine 1792 "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams

[SoConPubbie]

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[tennmountainman]

Good, bad or ugly.

The GOP now owns this bill with 190 GOP reps voting for this bill in the house.

[Veto!]

It’s bad and ugly.

[Texas Yellow Rose]

Clear, concise. Thanks.

[dp0622]

my head hurts from this issue. I believe Cruz. But most are not going to take the time to read what’s going on. We are a very reactionary country. As are all people I guess.
This bill will create jobs in some areas and take away in others. Adjusting is what life is all about, I guess. I could be wrong.

[lavaroise]

This is all about irresponsibility. They are giving the kool aid decision to Obama who they might as well call Rabi Auschwitz.

[DHerion]

The one question is was not asked/answered. Since he is able to read the trade agreement, would he currently support the present version of the trade agreement.

[justa-hairyape]

When Cruz states the United State has not signed on to the immigration sections of TPP, just exactly who is he talking about ? Obama’s lawyers ? Our legislators have had no input into TPP.

[Texas Yellow Rose]

You are not wrong. By the way, my head hurts too!

[freedomfiter2]

Yeah Ted, the US Constitution wasn’t a living document when it was signed either.

[Guenevere]

Bless Senator Sessions efforts!
He tried to warn us!
Actions have consequences.

[nathanbedford]

How can Senator Cruz trust Obama?

How can we trust Senator Cruz?

This press release is so full of misstatements that one is compelled to reassess support for Ted Cruz, and I can think of a no more painful undertaking.

[dp0622]

At least i know i’m not the only one :)

[justa-hairyape]

Supporting some American businesses by destroying other American businesses, is not supporting America. It is supporting your campaign contibutors, whoever they might be. My guess is this is really a national security issue. Similar to the horrible decision to run nuclear power plants that explode and meltdown if external power is lost. They are prepping the world for the next war. The BRICS are excluded. So they will now promote those companies vital for their war efforts and destroy those that are not.

[Sir Napsalot]

>>> Does TPA give up the Senate’s treaty power? No. Under the Constitution, there are two ways to make binding law: (1) through a treaty, ratified by two-thirds of the Senate ......

Sorry. Cruz' points may be in theory, not in current reality. Some one else put it like this (h/t: sevenwheel)

I've lived in and around Chicago my entire life, and what we have been seeing during the course of the Obama administration is very familiar. The administration is attempting to recast the United States Congress into a national version of the Chicago City Council, with the President playing the part of the Mayor.

Chicago has, in theory, a legislative body, the City Council, that in theory drafts, debates and votes on city ordinances. The political reality is quite different. The Aldermen do not draft ordinances or craft legislation. All ordinances and legislation come directly from the Mayor's office. The Aldermen are expected and required to vote lockstep with the mayor. In exchange, they are given enough political power to dish out political favors and enough financial support to defeat their opposition and remain Aldermen for life. They can make calls to get potholes fixed, move permits through City Hall, get broken trash cans replaced, and get extra police patrols. They get unofficial veto power over liquor licenses and business licenses. Corruption is tolerated and overlooked, and in a certain sense expected and required for those seeking to advance in City government. Anyone who votes against the Mayor, or tries to fight corruption, or seems too clean to trust finds themselves shut out. ..... (you can read more at link)

[SoConPubbie]

When Cruz states the United State has not signed on to the immigration sections of TPP, just exactly who is he talking about ? Obama’s lawyers ? Our legislators have had no input into TPP.

And yet, they still get to vote on it, making your point moot.

[Roland]

Does Senator Ted Cruz support TPP? Senator Cruz has not taken a position either in favor or against TPP.

This is an outright lie. The Fate of TPP/TiSA/TTIP will be determined by TPA. AS Cruz pointed out during the obamacare debate "A Vote For Cloture Is A Vote For Obamacare". TPA functions the came as cloture by removing the senate 2/3rds requirement.

It's obvious that the 2/3rds requirement is currently preventing passage of trade. I will consider support ONLY when I have seen the bills. The passage of TPA will guarantee passage of trade bills BEFORE the public has viewed them.

[odawg]

The Republicans are mounting the most egregious betrayal of their country in history. Ted Cruz is right with them. That talking point crap can’t spin it away.

[Zathras]

Still learning about TPA/TPP
I do find it interesting that India and China are the biggest drain on USA jobs and are not included in either of these agreements.