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Pope Francis Says Weapons Manufacturers Shouldn’t Call Themselves Christians
NYMAG ^ | June 21, 2015 | NYMAG

Posted on 06/21/2015 9:08:12 PM PDT by Dallas59

Pope Francis, who's been espousing pro-life positions in all senses of the term, took a moment on Sunday to inform those involved in weapons manufacturing that they're not really Christians. "If you trust only men you have lost," he told thousands of young people during a rally in the Italian city of Turin. "It makes me think of ... people, managers, businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons. That leads to a bit a distrust, doesn't it?" The crowd applauded and he went on to criticize those who invest in weapons industries, saying, "duplicity is the currency of today ... they say one thing and do another."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; globalagenda; globalwarminghoax; guncontrol; guns; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; secondamendment; weaponsmakers
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The “Pope” seems to have a pipeline to the IMF much more than the “Holy Spirit”.


41 posted on 06/21/2015 9:55:38 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: doc1019

Don’t forget meat cleavers. Or scythes. Goodness, why not even bows and arrows?


42 posted on 06/21/2015 9:58:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: .45 Long Colt

Nor infallible.


43 posted on 06/21/2015 9:58:44 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: doc1019

“Jesus was born a Jew, lived as a Jew and died as a Jew. As the son of G_d he begat the movement we know today (by his name) as the Christianity.”

OK, I’ll bite.

I am struck by your use of the word “begat.” Its use leads one into thinking, incorrectly, that Christianity was something new and, most importantly, different than the faith of Israel, the faith of Abraham. Other than the fact of the incarnation of the Son of God, which was no more and certainly no less than the fulfillment of prophecy, what exactly is the difference between Christianity and the faith of Abraham? Please explain.

As a corollary question, in what sense is Christianity a “movement?” Is it not just a continuation of the faith of Abraham?


44 posted on 06/21/2015 10:00:49 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: liberalism is suicide

Infallible is an understatement.


45 posted on 06/21/2015 10:00:56 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Dallas59

I’d point out that this guy is a Leftist’s dream of a Pope, but do I really need to?

Good grief.


46 posted on 06/21/2015 10:01:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: doc1019; Arthur McGowan

Not of the Rabbinic type, if you speak of the religion versus the ethnicity.

At one time, the Christians were known as “Nazarenes” after what was spoken (not written) of by the prophets of Jesus, per Matthew 2:23. The term is used in a derisive manner by Tertullus in Acts 24:5 to describe Christians.


47 posted on 06/21/2015 10:05:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Good post. Relevant, informative, and specific.


48 posted on 06/21/2015 10:06:28 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I dunno, got mixed feelings. I would like to think the grand kids could grow up, etc. but there is something appealing about being the “generation that doesn’t die”. Things getting crazier by the HOUR nowadays whereas they were just getting crazier by the day a few weeks ago. Sounds a lot like “quickening”. In my training I have delivered 75 babies. You get to where you recognize quickening. You also recognize that if it ain’t there it ain’t happening. An old guy told me the most valuable tool in OB is the cigar. Go have one. In all but a few cases patience is all that is required, a gentle hand at the right moment, and a new life begins. This wretched world is just crying out for new life. IMHO.


49 posted on 06/21/2015 10:07:59 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Dallas59

Pope Francis is doing more to prove he is a type of anti-Christ than many of his predecessors.


50 posted on 06/21/2015 10:08:37 PM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: Belteshazzar
he begat All his followers henceforth were known a Christians. movement? It started as a movement, with few adherents, later it became what we know today as Christianity.
51 posted on 06/21/2015 10:08:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: doc1019

don’t forget matches....because they can cause fires...


52 posted on 06/21/2015 10:10:54 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Dallas59
"If you trust only men you have lost,"

Hence the phrase, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."

If it wasn't for all those fake Christians who sacrificed their lives during WWI and WWII, you'd be speaking German right now, Frank. If not Arabic.

53 posted on 06/21/2015 10:19:11 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Dallas59

what about abortionists...billions of babies nurdered.


54 posted on 06/21/2015 10:20:40 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Dallas59

If the Pope believes this, then I guess he isn’t a Christian either.


55 posted on 06/21/2015 10:21:28 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: miele man
the more I read of this Francis the more he seems to be exponentially imploding...

I wonder whether he has some kind of sickness which is destroying his brain....

its like he is rushing to get every offbeat thought out of his head before its too late....

56 posted on 06/21/2015 10:21:44 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Dallas59

Buy stock in OA, VSTO, SWHC , RGR, OLN. Support the manufactures.


57 posted on 06/21/2015 10:22:16 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Dallas59

I am searching in vain for any speech, sermon, or article by this Pope opposing the Argentine invasion of the Falklands.

Maybe they don’t have any pictures in the Vatican hallways from the 1940’s when Nazis and Fascists surrounded the Vatican, or later when Communists were threatening the Free World, but were wiped out by those weapons or threat thereof.

As Catholics growing up in the 50’s and 60’s we prayed daily in parochial schools for “the conversion of Russia”.
This Pope seems to be praying for the conversion of America to the Marxist liberation theologies he seems to welcome into the Church.

Popes are only infallible when it come to teaching of faith and morals wherein Jesus Christ will provide guidance.

This Pope needs to understand that in anything else, he can be as dumb as dirt.


58 posted on 06/21/2015 10:23:28 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Just mythoughts

FINALLY someone who knows who the Anti Christ actually is!


59 posted on 06/21/2015 10:26:38 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike

The deception is wide and deep, just as was foretold would be.


60 posted on 06/21/2015 10:31:18 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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