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Washington whipped into frenzy ahead of ObamaCare ruling
The Hill ^ | 6/21/15 | Sarah Ferris

Posted on 06/22/2015 3:11:18 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 06/22/2015 3:11:19 AM PDT by markomalley
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"In my state of Georgia, 500,000 people would lose their insurance — 8 or 9 million people across the country. And all [states] have to do is put the exchanges in place,”

That's funny. The reason some states didn't have an exchange was politics, but many states tried for years and still failed. There is no chance of putting a state exchange in place in the remainder of this year. I hope and pray that the republicans have the decency to let this terrible law die.

2 posted on 06/22/2015 3:17:37 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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That's funny. The reason some states didn't have an exchange was politics, but many states tried for years and still failed.

I believe that just this past week Hawaii shut down their ObamaCare Exchange website.

If a Leftist state like Hawaii gives up there is little hope that any state can get an exchange going in less than a couple of years.

3 posted on 06/22/2015 3:34:11 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: markomalley

The fix is in.

Obolacare will live forever.


4 posted on 06/22/2015 3:36:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Pollster1

They won’t.

They’ll change the law so states don’t have to setup exchanges to get federal entitlements.

And in the end, Republicans will own it - even though they didn’t give it a single vote originally...


5 posted on 06/22/2015 3:36:41 AM PDT by DB
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NO ONE SEEMED TO CARE ABOUT THE 8 MILLION WHO LOST THEIR HEALTH CARE THANKS TO OBAMACARE

AND THE 70 MILLION WHO *WILL* LOSE IT NEXT (REMEMBER- IT WAS POSTPONED)


6 posted on 06/22/2015 3:45:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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It’s got to be more than 8 million losing it. I can’t afford it anymore, so I didn’t “officially” “lose” it.

We are not being told the true devastation of Obamacare.


7 posted on 06/22/2015 3:48:49 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Fresh Wind

There is no fix.


8 posted on 06/22/2015 3:49:02 AM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush - stay outta da Bushesh)
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There is no fix.

Except the fix we're in.

Either the Republicans vote to bankrupt the treasury and subsidize Obamacare or they permit the Democrats to run on the issue in the upcoming election risking their own reelection.

How many conservatives on these threads believe that the Republicans will do the right thing?


9 posted on 06/22/2015 4:03:17 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Bluebird Singing

It was 8 million almost immediately- 70 million more projected after the employer mandate became effective, but Odumbass delayed that for one year.

If King-v-Burwell goes the wrong way we should DEMAND 100% implementation of Obamacare- that is the only way to drive home what a disaster it will be- by letting people see it.


10 posted on 06/22/2015 4:05:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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To: Bluebird Singing

My wife and I can no longer ‘afford’ healthcare insurance. It was costing more more than we made each month.


11 posted on 06/22/2015 4:06:42 AM PDT by The Working Man
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NO ONE SEEMED TO CARE ABOUT THE 8 MILLION WHO LOST THEIR HEALTH CARE THANKS TO OBAMACARE AND THE 70 MILLION WHO *WILL* LOSE IT NEXT (REMEMBER- IT WAS POSTPONED)

And do you think a single news report will mention that?

12 posted on 06/22/2015 4:07:35 AM PDT by sphinx
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How many conservatives on these threads believe that the Republicans will do the right thing?

I expect the House will pass something, though perhaps not on the first try. This will probably contain some kind of a transitional mechanism which will have to be VERY carefully designed, leading to a clear exit strategy, or it will lead to a conservative revolt. In the Senate, there is a high probability that 51 Republican Senators will be unable to unite around anything at all. About 45 of them will be ready to support something similar to the House plan, but getting to 51 will be difficult.

Then the question is whether the Democrats simply filibuster and defy the GOP to risk a complete collapse of the individual insurance market. This is likely. I wonder if several of the states with Republican governors and legislatures are prepared to step in.

13 posted on 06/22/2015 4:20:27 AM PDT by sphinx
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The Republicans gave up any pretense of fiscal conservatism during the presidency of George W. Bush and the associated Congressional leadership of Dennis Hastert and Bill Frist.

The Republicans demonstrated their acquiescence to Obamacare when the House under the leadership of John Boehner refused to use the power of the purse to defund the program. Since taking control of both the House and Senate in 2015 the GOP has not sent a bill repealing Obamacare and passed by both houses of Congress to the president. The GOP has no intention of taking real action to repeal Obamacare because the ultimate goal of the multinational corporations and “too big to fail banks” funding the party is to move the cost of employer paid health insurance from corporate expense to the backs of the taxpayer.

Hence, Republicans in Congress are active collaborators with the Democrat Party in the ultimate quest for single payer government controlled healthcare. They will not do the right thing on healthcare, trade, climate change, government regulation, education, taxes, or the national debt. They are representatives of powerful special interests, not the people.


14 posted on 06/22/2015 4:33:34 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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The supreme irony here is that Hawaii had their own state sponsored version of ObaMaoCare on their books since the 1970s. They got by with it because it wasn't larded up with all the special mandates of the nationwide version of ObaMaoCare (such as free everything for druggies, winos and illegal aliens who'd never contributed a dime). Once nationwide ObaMaoCare rendered the state version moot, there was no way it could stay solvent on top of the benefits already in place.

Hawaii was the canary in the coal mine and the canary just died.

15 posted on 06/22/2015 4:41:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Soul of the South
Well said!


16 posted on 06/22/2015 4:53:32 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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——In my state of Georgia, 500,000 people would lose their insurance-—

actually, they will not. they can keep the insurance by paying for it themselves. if they cough up the money, they keep the insurance.


17 posted on 06/22/2015 4:55:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: sphinx
I fear that the only way a repair of Obamacare can be avoided is if the Republican leadership of either the house or the Senate hold fast. This is extremely unlikely especially in the wake of the house leadership combining the Democrats to pass TPP.

Neither McConnell nor Boehner will stand fast. Watch for a giant giveaway.


18 posted on 06/22/2015 4:57:17 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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No matter what happens we will lose. Either by Repub appointed justices who bend over backwards to uphold the law, or by Repub legislators who restore the subsidies if the SC strikes them down. Then there is the media who will savage repubs for taking away people’s insurance if Ob@stard loses.


19 posted on 06/22/2015 4:59:13 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Exactly correct about why Hawaii threw in the towel.

My prediction s that the SC grants "gay" marriage protected under the 14th ( enhancing homosexuals already separate and unequal status under the law as a protected class ) and - they keep the Obama subsidies intact ( basically punting ) - they don't want any part of this mess.

20 posted on 06/22/2015 5:12:27 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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