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The Biker Battle of Twin Peaks: What Was That All About?
Newsweek ^ | May 21, 2015 | Dana Goldstein

Posted on 06/22/2015 4:15:27 PM PDT by Prolixus

If you thought violent biker gangs were a relic of the Altamont era, the shootout at a Waco, Texas, restaurant on May 17 might have come as a shock.

A long-simmering beef between the Bandidos and Cossacks boiled over into gunfire. When police arrived at the scene, gang members shot at them too, leaving nine bikers dead, 18 people injured, and 170 suspects in police custody. Over 100 weapons have been confiscated.

The scale of this incident dwarfs a typical urban gang confrontation, says Harold Pollack, co-director of the University of Chicago Crime Lab and an expert on gangs and guns. We talked to Pollack about why biker gang violence typically gets so little attention. He believes the Waco incident confounds our expectations regarding the race and geographic location of people who perpetrate crime, causing us to see biker gangs as more of a “curiosity” than a threat.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bandidos; newsweak; openborders; pravdamedia; sgtpatrickswanton; sgtswanton; texas; waco; wacobikers; wacoshootout
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To: Smokin' Joe

“The arrests at Waco were made without reference to club affiliation.”

LOL! The were absolutely made with reference to club affiliations.


61 posted on 06/22/2015 9:11:24 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

” American flags patches are common on these vests”

Show me the American Flags ....

http://www.bandidosmc.com/

https://coxrare.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/screen-shot-2015-05-19-at-4-26-25-pm.png?w=891


62 posted on 06/22/2015 9:15:41 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
LOL! The were absolutely made with reference to club affiliations.

If you were in a club, any club, you got busted. Maybe you think that is funny.

63 posted on 06/22/2015 10:20:20 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TexasGator
I wasn't talking about the immeasurably small sampling you want to show me. I was talking about the thousands of bikers I have met, all over the country. We were discussing in general the gross similarities between bikers clothing.

Nice try at taking my generalizations and setting up a small sample strawman.

64 posted on 06/22/2015 10:25:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

No. Lots of bikers were rekeased that day.


65 posted on 06/22/2015 11:03:35 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

We know 177 were arrested, 9 dead, and some 20 wounded. That’s over 200. Do you have a list of the “lots” released? There were even bikers arrested who were not there.


66 posted on 06/22/2015 11:15:44 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Dyou are double counting ... again.


67 posted on 06/22/2015 11:20:24 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: wastoute
You trolls still wanna accuse me of being buddies with biker scum? Just who is it YOU are being buddies with?

You got that right.

68 posted on 06/22/2015 11:39:03 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Went to the VA today, all day sucker, come home and thought I would check in on WACO and looks like not much has changed, do not know how you tolerate it. “same same GI “


69 posted on 06/23/2015 12:00:54 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: TexasGator

Are you lolling again. What a silly way to wage a war. So contrived as to smell fishy several states away.


70 posted on 06/23/2015 2:24:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Do you have a list of the “lots” released?

The Boozefighters were not arrested. “No members of his club were arrested, he said.” Snyder http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-waco-biker-20150519-story.html

62 were not arrested.
“They released all the Boozefighters, all the military clubs, they released all the religious clubs”

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/police-release-more-details-numbers-in-twin-peaks-shooting/article_fd337d6e-a7af-5e2b-84b9-fb5480b6efa0.html


71 posted on 06/23/2015 4:39:24 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: TexasGator

New if you don’t read all the threads and don’t keep up at the Conservative Treehouse.


72 posted on 06/23/2015 4:53:05 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd; Jim Robinson
Conservative Treehouse.

Many threads and good conversation in the comm boxes. (I do not care for their formant, which makes me all the more thankful to Jim for keeping us ad free!!)

73 posted on 06/23/2015 5:05:23 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: TexasGator; All
don-o“1,000,000 bonds on each and every one? “

TG: No. Some were released on as little as $10k bonds.

Everyone note well the tactic displayed here. The FACT of the matter is that 177 were placed under a $1,000,000 bond beginning on May 17. Every. Single. One.

Only after hearings before a judge, after days and weeks in jail, were bond amounts adjusted.

The important piece of this is the initial action and the gross abuse of the concept of a security bond. When one scratches the surface just a little, one can learn that the excessive bond (see Amendment Eight) was set by a Justice of the Peace, a former LEO with no legal training. (It has not been established that he has received the remedial legal training that his office requires.)

The apologists for the wreckers of citizen's rights HAVE to try to gloss over things like this. But, their weak sauce is apparent to those who have looked closely at what has happened.

74 posted on 06/23/2015 6:04:48 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
The Perfectly Modulated Voice of Reason tells us why no video of the event is available to the media. We used to call it blarney.
75 posted on 06/23/2015 6:05:19 AM PDT by Prolixus (Why does Waco make me think of Benghazi?)
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To: Prolixus
The perfect arument to moderation...


76 posted on 06/23/2015 6:16:01 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: don-o

“Only after hearings before a judge, after days and weeks in jail, were bond amounts adjusted.”

Then why did you imply they still had $1,000,000 bonds?


77 posted on 06/23/2015 6:58:09 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: MrEdd

“don’t keep up at the Conservative Treehouse.”

LOL! CTH is a sensational Click-bait site that often ‘massages’ the info to get fools to their site.


78 posted on 06/23/2015 6:59:43 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
Then why did you imply they still had $1,000,000 bonds?

I implied no such thing. You, yet again, show the board classic troll tactic. In my post 12.... arrested>bond $1,000,000 in that order. Which is what happened.

You will never stop trolling because that is what trolls do, I will continue to pick my spots to expose you for what you are.

79 posted on 06/23/2015 7:04:10 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

“I implied no such thing.”

Ok. You didn’t imply. You stated they each had $1,000,000 bonds on them when in fact many were released on lower bonds.

“What is this “minor thing”? 177 arrested (115 with no criminal convictions? $1,000,000 bonds on each and every one?”


80 posted on 06/23/2015 7:07:26 AM PDT by TexasGator
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