Posted on 06/23/2015 6:45:47 AM PDT by don-o
The Bandidos Motorcycle Club called Monday for Waco police to share video and autopsy reports relating to a bloody melee that left nine people dead, 18 injured and 177 arrested.
In a statement, Stephen Stubbs, an attorney representing the club, accuses the Waco Police Department of repeatedly misleading the press and public with false information and withholding evidence from the deadly shooting at Twin Peaks.
“The release of the video and/or autopsy reports would simply clear up rampant misinformation,” Stubbs’ statement read. “If the Waco Police Department didn't want to interfere with the investigation or influence a potential jury pool, it should not have released its false narrative in the first place and instead should have stayed silent during the entirety of the investigation.”
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“WHY are they absent from such a truly critical and important national story?”
Because they don’t want to be associated with a few conspiracy nuts.
You guys have both given up on the right of free association in America.
And yet another idiotic charge is made. Why would you so foolishly mangle the oath of enlistment like that?
“This is all and only about depriving Americans of their right to free association. “
Then stick to that and stop defending motorcycle gangs that went to war in a public plaza!
Are you playing dumb or can you not really understand what I am asking? Do you know what the Third Reich did with those they named subhumans? I cannot help you with either of those scenarios and it's past time to reactivate my Ignore on you.
Well I don't participate in groupthink, so I will only speak for myself.
I wasn't there, and I choose to wait for both sides to present evidence in a court of law before going off and taking sides.
I am enjoying the discussion, and I do have substantial experience with many motorcyclists, including hard core 1%ers. I also happen to know several cops, lawyers, and judges.
To me, this is about trying the case in court, not the media. I remember the Richard Jewel (sp?) situation very well.
You are assuming again.
I think you are absolutely correct and will be shown to have been absolutely correct when they stop trying to cover this all up. I don't think a full cover-up is possible in this case, as much as they would love to be able to pull it off. For one thing, it would involve too many people but more importantly the Waco authorities just don't seem up to the task.
The number of people who need to be silenced is too large and the number of Waco authority brain-cells is too small.
“Why would you so foolishly mangle the oath of enlistment like that? “
You brought it up saying it never expired ... too bad you didn’t read it all before you posted.
In Texas, via Waco, HOW IS IT that two thirds of the "criminals" arrested in this sweep have zero criminal records? Is it because they bully the cops and have them too frightened to catch them and press charges? Is it because the cops are so inept that they can only catch a third of them actually in the act of committing crimes and have to catch them in sweeps of Americans who are enjoying their right of free association?
Or is it because those criminals are so adroit, clever, practiced, and PROFESSIONAL that two thirds of them can outsmart the cops constantly, even though they wear signs and emblems publicly proclaiming their active participation in criminal activity?
Or is it because the entire narrative is fiction, and the "shootout" was a choreographed operation of UCs and turned informants to set up the premise to justify the mass arrest of people in a very specific demographic exercising their right to free association?
“Bandidos are likely to focus on recruiting new members with no criminal history “
Tier 2 level gangs sharing the ranking together: Bloods, Crips, MS13, and Bandidos.
‘Recruit members with no criminal history.’ That goes some distance explaining one of the persistent defenses of those arrested.
“Members with no criminal history” is a tactic used to pin the crimes on somebody in place of the established full members. Let the new little guy take the fall.
Bandidos, Crips, Bloods and MS13 all do it.
“Or is it because the entire narrative is fiction, “
When you have all the bikers and all the LE saying the bikers started shooting first, you have to be an idiot or conspiracy nut to think otherwise.
“Tier 2 level gangs sharing the ranking together: Bloods, Crips, MS13, and Bandidos.”
Reading don’s post I would have thought that these were just your average good family men out for a Sunday afternoon at a Breastaurant.
“Because they don’t want to be associated with a few conspiracy nuts.”
And they don’t want to be called “liars,” “bootlickers,” and so forth.
I started a really good thread a few days ago from a Waco Tribune update, but it was pulled within a short while because the mods said they didn’t have enough “babysitters.”
Yes, that is EXACTLY what this is about, and it is succeeding because the media is aiding and abetting abusive law enforcement by telling only PART of the whole story while we wait ... wait ... wait .. wait ... for it to be tried in court.
By the time these clearly unjustified arrests are tried in court, YEARS away from now, it will be far too late to help those people in a demographic very likely to be veterans and supporters of the 2nd amendment who were grievously harmed, taken away from their jobs, homes, obligations, bills, families, cell phones, property, for two weeks to more than a month now ONLY for being a certain kind of American in a certain location at a time the police decided to shoot "bad guys" the police "knew" were going to be there.
If a similar thing happens tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or next year, and the targeted group is a "club" of recreational shooters, or a "club" of RC aircraft (think civilian drones) enthusiasts in a scary situation where the poor put-upon over-stressed police "overreacted" and arrested club members en masse because a few in the club were "known" criminals as they explain and portray those little-known clubs to a fawning, obedient media, IT WOULD BE TOO LATE for that "court of law" to dispense justice for people who are UNIQUELY skilled and equipped to effectively resist organized government tyranny. Those people will have been effectively knocked out of action.
I've READ my history books. I know that it CAN happen in America, and that indeed, because history has repeated itself for centuries, that without vigilance such as people like don-on and our freedom to associate in venues like Free Republic, it WILL happen again.
THAT is why this Waco story is akin to 9-11 -- America changed in a huge number of ways the instant the first plane hit the World Trade Center, and it changed in a huge number of ways the instant those 177 mostly non-criminal bikers were arrested and WRONGLY thrown in jail at TREMENDOUS personal expense, enough to financially destroy them. The damage has been done -- it's too late now even IF every single one is found innocent.
Save your "I don't participate in groupthink" garbage for suckers who haven't yet figured out how deceitful you are to yourself and to them.
You need professional help.
I think I can very safely assume that you are at best self-deceiving.
There ya go again.
“The damage has been done — it’s too late now even IF every single one is found innocent.”
LOL! You really believe that the biker gangs are innocent babes in this affair?
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