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Bandidos Demand Waco Police Release Video, Autopsy Reports
5nbcdfw ^ | June 22, 2015

Posted on 06/23/2015 6:45:47 AM PDT by don-o

The Bandidos Motorcycle Club called Monday for Waco police to share video and autopsy reports relating to a bloody melee that left nine people dead, 18 injured and 177 arrested.

In a statement, Stephen Stubbs, an attorney representing the club, accuses the Waco Police Department of repeatedly misleading the press and public with false information and withholding evidence from the deadly shooting at Twin Peaks.

“The release of the video and/or autopsy reports would simply clear up rampant misinformation,” Stubbs’ statement read. “If the Waco Police Department didn't want to interfere with the investigation or influence a potential jury pool, it should not have released its false narrative in the first place and instead should have stayed silent during the entirety of the investigation.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: donuthole; texas; texasgatorisxspurt; texasgatortroll; waco
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To: don-o

The following is true and correct:

The Bandidos want the videos released for public view.


41 posted on 06/23/2015 8:34:52 AM PDT by Prolixus (Why does Waco make me think of Benghazi?)
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To: Prolixus

“The following is true and correct: The Bandidos want the videos released for public view.”

Correction. The Bandidos lawyer is making noise about releasing the video.


42 posted on 06/23/2015 8:53:38 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o

“There is a mental disconnect on the threads when we see insistence on these rights equated with “supporting” outlaw criminal gangs.””

Yes, there are a few here who are of the “They deserved it ilk.” Which is part of the “Thank the cops for killing those who deserved killing cadre.”


43 posted on 06/23/2015 9:08:59 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: TexasGator
"I have posted links to a couple of the good ones. Like the Pagan/HA war in Philly."

I wasn't talking about their wars. I was asking if anyone knows how the Hell's Angels started.

Basically, they were post WWII veterans who still wanted the adrenaline rush and motorcycle races and hill-climbing satisfied that rush. Unfortunately, as they got more wild with their partying a bad element joined in. It all culminated in 1947 at the Hollister hill-climb competition (Gypsy Tour that sill exists) where they were excluded because of their attitudes. That's when the so-called Hollister riot occurred.

It was way over-blown by the media because ONE guy rode his bike into a bar and they were drinking on the streets and leaving beer bottles and cans around. Hardly a riot. It was the genesis of the movie, "The Wild Ones". I was there for the 50th anniversary in 1997 and learned a great deal how the whole hard-core biker mystique originated.

By the early 60's many of the original Vets were gone, but the hard-drinking hard-riding legacy lived and grew and they became so obsessed with partying and absolute freedom in the back country they became outlaws. That's when they took the name Hells Angels from a WWII Army Air Corp Squadron. Even at that time they weren't mean unless you crossed them. Then I guy named Sonny Barger organized the club in San Bernardino, CA and they went rogue. I actually talked to Sonny up in a Reno about his bike shop in Scottsdale, AZ. Not sure it's still there.

Point is the HA's started out as Veterans looking for thrills but overdid their stay on the Gypsy Tour in Hollister and got pissed. The rest is history.

There were also some other WWII vet motorcycle clubs back in the day like the Galloping Gooses and Iron Horsemen. I was actually naive enough to consider being a Prospect for the Satan's Slaves or Straight Satans? (a sister club of the Los Angeles HA's).

I went to one party and watch their depraved antics like pissing on the first person to pass out, "red wings turns", passing around the "mamas", having to wear what was called "originals" (months old Levis with grease and other filth), and expeditions to find blacks to beat up. That was all too much for me - and have never had any interaction with those sick assholes since. However, I've had many great times with your average Harley rider. Just stay away and don't talk to 1%ers.

44 posted on 06/23/2015 9:19:41 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: TexasGator
"I have posted links to a couple of the good ones. Like the Pagan/HA war in Philly."

I wasn't talking about their wars. I was asking if anyone knows how the Hell's Angels started.

Basically, they were post WWII veterans who still wanted the adrenaline rush and motorcycle races and hill-climbing satisfied that rush. Unfortunately, as they got more wild with their partying a bad element joined in. It all culminated in 1947 at the Hollister hill-climb competition (Gypsy Tour that sill exists) where they were excluded because of their attitudes. That's when the so-called Hollister riot occurred.

It was way over-blown by the media because ONE guy rode his bike into a bar and they were drinking on the streets and leaving beer bottles and cans around. Hardly a riot. It was the genesis of the movie, "The Wild Ones". I was there for the 50th anniversary in 1997 and learned a great deal how the whole hard-core biker mystique originated.

By the early 60's many of the original Vets were gone, but the hard-drinking hard-riding legacy lived and grew and they became so obsessed with partying and absolute freedom in the back country they became outlaws. That's when they took the name Hells Angels from a WWII Army Air Corp Squadron. Even at that time they weren't mean unless you crossed them. Then I guy named Sonny Barger organized the club in San Bernardino, CA and they went rogue. I actually talked to Sonny up in a Reno about his bike shop in Scottsdale, AZ. Not sure it's still there.

Point is the HA's started out as Veterans looking for thrills but overdid their stay on the Gypsy Tour in Hollister and got pissed. The rest is history.

There were also some other WWII vet motorcycle clubs back in the day like the Galloping Gooses and Iron Horsemen. I was actually naive enough to consider being a Prospect for the Satan's Slaves or Straight Satans? (a sister club of the Los Angeles HA's).

I went to one party and watch their depraved antics like pissing on the first person to pass out, "red wings turns", passing around the "mamas", having to wear what was called "originals" (months old Levis with grease and other filth), and expeditions to find blacks to beat up. That was all too much for me - and have never had any interaction with those sick assholes since. However, I've had many great times with your average Harley rider. Just stay away and don't talk to 1%ers.

45 posted on 06/23/2015 9:19:42 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: ifinnegan; don-o
Finnegan to don-o: You are the troll.

Wrong, Finnegan. Don-o is an actual smart conservative.

You only talk the talk when it comes to distrusting the MSM and thinking skeptically and critically. Don-o walks the walk.

YOU are a tool and the MSM is using you as one because you are allowing it.

46 posted on 06/23/2015 9:23:28 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: A Navy Vet; don-o
WHAT A GREAT POST!!! Well done. Smart folks will know what is in it is accurate. The truth sets people free.

It will fly over the heads of sheltered, limited folks. Their ignorance will shackle them to the MSM narrative.

47 posted on 06/23/2015 9:28:25 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: TexasGator

Yep, I’ve been told the Cossacks are just regular law-abiding citizens.

Of course I got no answers as to why regular law-abiding citizens would dress like outlaw bikers, or get in a turf war with outlaw bikers.


48 posted on 06/23/2015 9:37:18 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: A Navy Vet

Sonny was out of Oakland not berdoo and they got into the drug culture, started dealing to pay for all the partying and it was all downhill from there to todays HA


49 posted on 06/23/2015 9:39:51 AM PDT by winodog
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To: Finny

“WHAT A GREAT POST!!! Well done. Smart folks will know what is in it is accurate. The truth sets people free. “

You have finally seen the light!


50 posted on 06/23/2015 9:40:29 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: A Navy Vet

Which has nothing to do with Waco 5/17/15 and following. Unless you are laying groundwork for declaring certain American citizens to be “sub-humans” as has been asserted on these threads.


51 posted on 06/23/2015 9:45:09 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: A Navy Vet

>> Anyone who sports a 1% badge should be avoided at all costs.

What is a “1% badge”?

Thx


52 posted on 06/23/2015 9:48:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Boogieman
Yep, I’ve been told the Cossacks are just regular law-abiding citizens.

In fact, the ONLY ones telling you they're not, are "police gang experts," and at that, they only started telling you they weren't AFTER May 17 -- up to that point, the ONLY reference to Cossacks that I can find at all EXCEPT for a Cossack-led armed and hired private patrol at the border on private property to halt illegal drug running and immigrants (work which the Border Patrol was failing miserably), have to do with their being subject to assault and attack by Bandidos while engaging in legal behavior. That is: riding their bikes on public roadways where they please wearing a sign that says "Texas" on their vests -- the last time I looked, any American with a drivers' license has that right.

What you REALLY mean is that because you disapprove of bikers who look/dress "tough" as you see them in TV shows and movies, and because you are convinced that police cannot catch these obvious criminals in the act of committing crimes, you want to deprive others of their God-given American right to associate with whomever they please, peacefully, civilly, freely. As long as they are not engaged in actual crime, there is a right to free association. YOU want to restrict that right because you disapprove of anyone associating with people YOU think are "bad."

What you really are about is limiting peoples' right to free association. That is what this whole Waco thing is about, as well. RESTRICTING THE RIGHT OF FREE ASSOCIATION. You think that if someone is a little shady, a lot shady, or has a record of criminal behavior, then others should be deprived of their right to associate with them.

THAT is what you are advocating: depriving people of the right to free association. You dress it up in a different costume, but that is all and only what this is about: depriving people of their right to free association because you disapprove of their choice of associates.

53 posted on 06/23/2015 9:54:04 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: TexasGator
Did you miss the "1 percent" bit? Or did you misread it as 99 percent?

The truth is that the bad bikers are a tiny minority.

You think that they are the majority and that depriving Americans of their right to free association is the only way to "protect" Americans from this majority.

You are such a dangerous fool.

54 posted on 06/23/2015 9:56:31 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

The red herrings are knee deep on these threads.


55 posted on 06/23/2015 10:00:31 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Bless your heart.


56 posted on 06/23/2015 10:01:18 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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To: don-o; A Navy Vet; TexasGator
Which has nothing to do with Waco 5/17/15 and following. Unless you are laying groundwork for declaring certain American citizens to be “sub-humans” as has been asserted on these threads.

Sadly, he IS laying the groundwork for assuming guilt because of someone wearing an insignia which all people have a right to wear regardless of who, where, or when. Navy Vet assures us that wearers of the 1% patch are guaranteed bad dudes ... frankly, I think that may have been true at one time, MAYBE, but now it is just a big drama great for TV "reality" shows, a lot of soap opera, people love thinking they can tell something about someone because they're "in the know" about this "secret sign" stuff.

I like that Navy Vet shares details about what he makes clear are a TINY MINORITY of the bikers, and which squares completely with my own, more limited experience with Hells Angels and bad biker dudes, but ... I think the 1% patch nowadays is as much a gimmick as anything else, more likely to mean what the wearer intends for it to mean, than what "police gang experts" think it means and which tools like Gator swallow like spoon-fed baby food.

This is ALL and ONLY about the right of free association. 177 Americans were arrested and harshly punished (being captured and prevented from working, paying bills, going home, meeting financial and professional obligations, taking care of family, etc., for a minimum of two weeks to a month, and then having to come up with thousands of dollars in order to rejoin normal life again is harsh punishment) for exercising a perfectly legal and quintessentially American right to free association.

Let's call a spade a spade.

57 posted on 06/23/2015 10:07:44 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: MEG33; don-o
That's all you have to say because you are wrong and you know it. You are an enemy of freedom and you know it. So you smugly say to at true sentinel, don-o, "Bless your heart."

You stink, MEG.

58 posted on 06/23/2015 10:10:39 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Correction — 150 Americans were arrested and harshly punished for exercising their right to free association.


59 posted on 06/23/2015 10:13:04 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Have a wonderful day.


60 posted on 06/23/2015 10:13:19 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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