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No Conservatives, Legalizing Gay Marriage Doesn’t Mean Polygamy Is Next
Politicus USA ^ | 06/27/2015 | By: Keith Brekhus

Posted on 06/28/2015 9:43:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Shortly after the Supreme Court’s historic ruling in favor of the right for same-sex couples to marry, conservatives rushed to condemn the ruling by invoking the slippery slope logical fallacy that permitting gay couples to marry opens the door to legalizing polygamy too. Conservative commentator Bill Kristol tweeted “Polygamy here we come”. Fox News host Martha MacCallum queried:

 So suppose three people say, we want to be a marriage; we’re three people, and we love each other, and we want to be a marriage. What’s to prevent that, under this?

Even Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts employed the “slippery slope to polygamy” argument in his dissent, arguing:

It is striking how much of the majority’s reasoning would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage. If “[t]here is dignity in the bond between two men or two women who seek to marry and in their autonomy to make such profound choices,” why would there be any less dignity in the bond between three people who, in exercising their autonomy, seek to make the profound choice to marry?


Sadly the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and the conservative commentators who echo his argument seem to lack understanding that slippery slope arguments are logical fallacies. There is no relationship between same-sex marriage and polygamy. In fact, historically, polygamy has been almost exclusively practiced in conservative, male-dominated patriarchal cultures that are the antithesis of the progressive and liberating redefinition of marriage being promoted by LGBTQ Americans and their straight allies.

Societies and sub-cultural groups that have practiced plural marriages have been hetero-normative rather than gay friendly. While conservatives enjoy making absurd slippery slope arguments in their feeble attempts to discredit same-sex couples, their arguments are wrapped in emotion rather than logic.

To illustrate the flawed logic of the conservative’s arguments, the slippery slope fallacy can be applied with equal silliness to straight marriages. If a man is permitted to have one wife what is to stop him from having two or even three wives? While that argument may seem patently silly, it is parallel to the argument conservatives are making against same-sex marriages. Well, almost parallel. The truth is a man with one wife is one wife closer to having multiple wives than a man who has no wives and a husband is to having multiple wives.

If conservatives want to argue that gay marriage should not be legal, they have every right to make their case. However, if the best they can come up with is the faulty argument that allowing gay marriage opens the door to polygamy then they might as well keep their mouths shut. If that is the only objection they can muster, it fails basic logic and they have no case.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; keithbrekhus; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; obamanation; polygamy
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To: Mr Rogers
Polygamy is VASTLY more natural than homosexuality. Also accepted in the Bible.

At this point, we may as well legalize it. At least we might be able to curb the rampant welfare abuse perpetrated by many of these "spiritually married" polygamous unions.

61 posted on 06/28/2015 10:11:08 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Zathras

There are lots of Muslims and a subset of Mormons would disagree with you.


62 posted on 06/28/2015 10:11:16 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the father is on the right. Looks kind of butch.


63 posted on 06/28/2015 10:12:24 AM PDT by alpo (Legal disclaimer: Nothing in ths post is related to firearms.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
RE: Three men. In no time at all. Just to set a precedent.
BR> Apparently, the men have been pre-empted by the women.

Married lesbian ‘throuple’ Doll, Kitten and Brynn Young from Massachusetts are having a baby


64 posted on 06/28/2015 10:12:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Joe 6-pack

No no no no. 14th amendment will be applied to incest first followed by pedophilia then bestiality. Let’s get out perversions in order.


65 posted on 06/28/2015 10:13:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: theBuckwheat
Liberals first lie to themselves. They give themselves permission and a list of excuses to allow that which the emotions desire. Being human, when they fail to meet their own expectations, they create another layer of lies and excuses so they don’t have to take responsibility.

A liberal then lies to their loved ones, their family, their friends, their business associates, their co-workers, everyone they interact with. The “truth” is only an alternative reality to a liberal, one reality among many possible. Truth itself is malleable and plastic. What is “true” in the morning might not be “true” at noon.

A liberal, in his own mind, cannot commit sin. Every action is excusable, at least after the fact. Thus, they cannot do what God requires of every human in order to have a relationship with Him: because a liberal never committed any sin, he does not have anything to repent of.

Liberals, of all humans, have cut themselves off from God. Now of course God has a plan to deal with liberals, but that is why he gives so many warnings, and why in the end, He promises to shock the world, so as to shock as many liberals as possible into the real world.

No person who declines to fully participate in reality can be granted the free gift of salvation. Such a person could not successfully have eternal life. They would fail in the same way that Lucifer failed.

That is the hard truth of the human condition, and why God is not playing games.

Really well said. Extraordinary, actually. Although I would add that you've described the human condition for everyone - conservatives as well. Once someone had convinced themselves that they, in whatever way or through whatever justification, have moved beyond sin, they become a monster - by definition.

I think the difference between liberals and conservatives is the mechanism they use to absolve themselves. Conservatives beat their breasts and call themselves sinners to escape facing their sins, while liberals refuse to acknowledge the existence of sin at all. So they reverse each other tactically, but their goal is the same.

That's why they work together so well in Washington DC.

66 posted on 06/28/2015 10:13:07 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Marriage equality for ALL!!!!!


67 posted on 06/28/2015 10:14:58 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: SeekAndFind

And Lawrence v Texas didn’t mean that gay marriage would be legalized, if I recall correctly.


68 posted on 06/28/2015 10:15:33 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: SeekAndFind

May we assume this fool also derides the slippery slope argument when libtards are wailing about Republicans banning abortion?


69 posted on 06/28/2015 10:16:46 AM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the left doesn’t really believe in “equality”? Shocker.


70 posted on 06/28/2015 10:18:13 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: allblues

RE: “Marriage,” Justice Kennedy writes, “responds to the universal fear that a lonely person might call out only to find no one there.”

Polygamy increases the chances that somebody will be there (and not having her period or headache) when the lonely husband calls out at night.


71 posted on 06/28/2015 10:18:59 AM PDT by heye2monn
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To: SeekAndFind
Two + two does not equal four, because he does not want it to equal four?

Once society begins its drive down the slippery slope, it's not possible to put the brakes on it. There is abundant historical precedence for polygamy in US history. Plenty. And, just like gay cohabitation, it is being practiced in the US today. Only some wives need to give up some of their legal rights and benefits.


72 posted on 06/28/2015 10:19:43 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: SeekAndFind

No polygamy is not next. Noe is bestiality. Incest is next, as well as legal recognition of the so-called right to die.


73 posted on 06/28/2015 10:25:09 AM PDT by Atticus
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To: SeekAndFind

Polygamy isn’t next, you guys. We’ll do pedophilia first before we get around to polygamy. So there!


74 posted on 06/28/2015 10:26:36 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Bryanw92

Don’t you know? If a liberal FEELS it’s logical, then magically it IS! After all, this person must “self-identify” as a logical being, and that’s all that counts!! /SARC


75 posted on 06/28/2015 10:28:16 AM PDT by mom3boys (#realmarriage = one man + one woman)
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To: mom3boys

>>Don’t you know? If a liberal FEELS it’s logical, then magically it IS! After all, this person must “self-identify” as a logical being, and that’s all that counts!! /SARC

Yep. The feeeeeeelings of a Prog are all that matters, but a baby in a womb isn’t a baby because it has never seen sunlight.


76 posted on 06/28/2015 10:30:53 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: driftless2

Actually what the Supremes have done is reaffirmed that marriage is not a ‘right’ at all but a privilege as true rights require no license to exercise. The churches have aided and abetted this by going along with licensure thereby allowing the State to set the rules and concepts of marriage. If the State’s beliefs and views were consistent that’s one thing but with popular opinion/consensus now the basis for legal renderings, well, this is what happens.


77 posted on 06/28/2015 10:31:00 AM PDT by yadent
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To: Da Coyote

Since this debate isn’t about gay marriage, but the revolution,(gays are idiots if they think they will be spared once the revolution happens) it doesn’t matter what comes next.

The left will continue to throw crap against the wall and see what sticks.


78 posted on 06/28/2015 10:31:36 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Change the Defense of Marriage Act to the Defense of Holy Matrimony Act. Game, set match.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

It's Time to Legalize Polygamy


79 posted on 06/28/2015 10:36:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: SeekAndFind
Regardless how outrageous the demands become, there is no firm pushback to stop them. I feel that whether it's polygamy or marrying ones pets, there will be enough politicians that can be bought off. If that gets too expensive, it only takes a few well-chosen judges to declare anything at all Constitutional.

So, yeah, polygamy won't even be a speed bump in this race to the bottom of the slippery slope.

80 posted on 06/28/2015 10:42:45 AM PDT by grania
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