Posted on 07/01/2015 3:07:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
It was in August 2014 that the real danger began, and that we heard the first warnings of war. That month, unmarked Russian troops covertly invaded eastern Ukraine, where the separatist conflict had grown out of its control. The Russian air force began harassing the neighboring Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, which are members of NATO. The US pledged that it would uphold its commitment to defend those countries as if they were American soil, and later staged military exercises a few hundred yards from Russia's border.
Both sides came to believe that the other had more drastic intentions. Moscow is convinced the West is bent on isolating, subjugating, or outright destroying Russia. One in three Russians now believe the US may invade. Western nations worry, with reason, that Russia could use the threat of war, or provoke an actual conflict, to fracture NATO and its commitment to defend Eastern Europe. This would break the status quo order that has peacefully unified Europe under Western leadership, and kept out Russian influence, for 25 years.
Fearing the worst of one another, the US and Russia have pledged to go to war, if necessary, to defend their interests in the Eastern European borderlands. They have positioned military forces and conducted chest-thumping exercises, hoping to scare one another down. Putin, warning repeatedly that he would use nuclear weapons in a conflict, began forward-deploying nuclear-capable missiles and bombers.
Europe today looks disturbingly similar to the Europe of just over 100 years ago, on the eve of World War I...
(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...
Pull the pin, start”it” up. Putin will “fold”?
Those are strange words for you to use about our defensive measures in our own nations, against an enemy that currently is invading Ukraine, and threatening various NATO and non NATO nations with war.
When did you switch sides? When did you start calling a country moving up defenses to protect it’s borders against an Army on the move, whose leader is bragging about how quickly he can conquer you an act of war?
As the enemy is conducting an invasion, why are you saying that if we don’t sit paralyzed within our own nations, that we are trying to start a war?
The enemy is conducting an invasion and a tough guy like you hasn't engaged? That seems mighty queer, but I understand it. Your combat skillset is convincing others to go ahead of you while you critique their performance and motivation.
You are tactically invaluable to Obama, well done.
The child’s argument, and to think that childish nonsense came from a guy claiming to have served in the Navy.
It must have been painful for you to have to serve in our military, assuming it was ours that you served in
Today, you serve Russia, on the internet.
Really? About he only thing you've stated that makes sense is the 1930s reference. Russia was hardly a jaugernaut then, and she isn't today.
If we hadn't entered the war, Russia would not exist today. China has her own problems. War is on the horizon, but the teams are still being drafted. Have patience...
I heard the same arguments in the 1930’s about why there can’t be another war, similar to WW1. The argument then, as it is today, that “NO ONE IS STUPID ENOUGH TO START ANOTHER WAR THAT WOULD ENVELOPE THE WHOLE WORLD”. The catalyst that started WW2 was the world wide financial crash in 1929. We are headed for another world wide financial crash, and this will bring out the world dictators to begin to want what other countries have that they don’t have.
I have no doubt we’re headed for war. In fact, I’m already engaged in one. IMHO, we are much closer to 1918 than 1930. The events leading to WWI seem almost contrived when you look at the history.
The unreal events now playing out across the globe will no doubt trigger a cataclysmic collapse, but Russia will not be a major player. The bear and eagle will not play unless the dragon partners with the bear.
What you are forgetting, is that Germany and USSR signed an agreement, prior to WW2. The only reason that this happened was both of these dictatorial countries saw an easy picking in POLAND. The USSR had nothing to lose with this agreement, and they gained territory they always wanted from POLAND. Meanwhile in the Pacific side, Japan knew that they had a free hand, until they were stupid enough to attack the USA. All of these countries in the 30’s that were gobbling up their neighbor countries were all dictatorial. I see this happening today.
It’s possible, given the craven nature of our liberal Western leadership. What I’m saying is it won’t be the result of any Russian advance, but western capitulation.
Pretty much like we see in US politics—leftists aren’t winning elections or even hearts and minds—Republicans are all just corrupt pu$$ies.
Let me remind everyone, that in the 30’s, there were no “LEADERS” to speak off, to deny these dictators all their wishes. Those “LEADERS”, like Winston Churchill, were excoriated by the liberal press. That is happening today. The only thing these politicians are doing are just feathering their nests.
Reagan blew Russia’s pipelines to Kingdom come by selling them a supercomputer with a trojan. Made a big kaboom...
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