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Netflix hit with 'cloud tax' as Chicago targets online consumers
fortune ^ | july 1, 2015 | jeff john roberts

Posted on 07/01/2015 5:26:51 PM PDT by lowbridge

Chicago officials are taking an aggressive new tax approach. Consumers will now have to pay 9% on Netflix, Amazon Web Services and more.

Chicago is marking Independence Day this year with fireworks, hot dogs – and sweeping new tax rules that require companies to collect a 9% levy every time consumers use streaming and cloud services such as Netflix or Amazon Web Services.

The rules, which went into effect today, came about after city officials expanded the interpretation of existing amusement and property lease taxes to encompass cloud-based technologies.

According to lawyers at ReedSmith, which flagged the new rules in a blog post, the taxes now encompass SaaS (software as a service), PaaS (Platform as a Service) and streaming media services. In a phone interview, Wynne described how the tax collection will work in practice:

“It really comes from doing audits of consumers. Take our law firm. City officials will audit us for a bunch of taxes, and may find online services,” said Wynne, explaining that officials will now check if the firm has been paying the 9 percent tax on those services.

This raises the question of who is responsible for collecting and paying the tax, which is technically levied on consumers.

“Let’s say an audit of our firm reveals we an invoice from Amazon or someone else with a Chicago address,” said Wynne in a hypothetical example. “The city authority has the choice of either going after the law firm or the companies who didn’t collect.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amazon; chicago; cloudtax; netflix; taxes
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1 posted on 07/01/2015 5:26:51 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

“I see you have some money there. Give it to me.”


2 posted on 07/01/2015 5:27:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: lowbridge

They need that money to placate the foreign invaders so they vote Democrap which is why Independence day is now Dependence day.


3 posted on 07/01/2015 5:29:20 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 19 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: lowbridge

Will it ever end?

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4 posted on 07/01/2015 5:29:37 PM PDT by Mears
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To: lowbridge

If they levy a tax on each program I watch, I won’t be watching any programs.

What a moronic load of...


5 posted on 07/01/2015 5:31:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: lowbridge

Use the money to pay the teachers so they can claim it’s for the chillrun


6 posted on 07/01/2015 5:33:19 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: DoughtyOne

I guess they never heard of a VPN in Chicago....


7 posted on 07/01/2015 5:36:19 PM PDT by Kozak (Walker / Cruz 2016 or Cruz/ Walker 2016 Either one is good...)
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To: lowbridge

They really want to kill Chicago, don’t they?


8 posted on 07/01/2015 5:36:54 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I thought Chicago was known for homicides, not suicide : )


9 posted on 07/01/2015 5:37:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Kozak

LOL, I’d sure hate to have to use one to watch Netflix and HULU.


10 posted on 07/01/2015 5:37:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: lowbridge

What do we expect for a communists liberal city like Chicago.


11 posted on 07/01/2015 5:38:42 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Kozak

“I guess they never heard of a VPN in Chicago....”

exactly. Even HBO and netflix canada subscribers use VPN to access the real US shows.


12 posted on 07/01/2015 5:39:48 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: lowbridge

If local video rental stores have to pay this tax, it is reasonable for Netflix to have to pay it as well. Otherwise, this is simply discrimination amongst various types of businesses.


13 posted on 07/01/2015 5:40:18 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: max americana

I use it in Saudi.


14 posted on 07/01/2015 5:42:01 PM PDT by Kozak (Walker / Cruz 2016 or Cruz/ Walker 2016 Either one is good...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I can’t believe HULU and Netflix can provide the programming they do based on the $7.99/mo model.

Netflix in particular intrigues me because their advertising is minimalist compared to HULU.

So here the government jumps in with both feet to piggy back their success.

Just nutty.


15 posted on 07/01/2015 5:42:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Kozak

nice :)


16 posted on 07/01/2015 5:43:28 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: lowbridge

Netflix monthly already collects taxes. My $7.99 charge ends up being $8.75 on my VISA. Thus, about $0.76 of my monthly charge is already going to taxes.

Then, the cable Internet charges more taxes for Internet and TV.

I wonder how Chicago assesses the value of a video stream in order to assess the 9%.

It would seem that the 9% tax idea has not been thought through. It would be open to a slew of lawsuits.


17 posted on 07/01/2015 5:47:44 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: DoughtyOne

I have Netflix, and love it.


18 posted on 07/01/2015 5:47:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I have:

Netflix
HULU
& Amazon

For less than $25 a month I can always find some good value on one of them.

Showtime is coming to HULU this month. You can supposedly view anything Showtime has to offer. Frankly, their own programming doesn’t appeal to me at all. It’s disgusting.

I do think I’ll enjoy the access to a larger movie database.


19 posted on 07/01/2015 5:49:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Mears

Yes. Eventually it self-immolates. And we’re getting close to seeing that here. Cf Greece


20 posted on 07/01/2015 5:51:22 PM PDT by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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