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1 posted on 07/02/2015 6:45:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The reality of affirmative action is having droves of “minority” students at colleges and universities who can barely function at an elementary school level. Even the most top-tier and competitive universities have to implement special remedial programs on account of sub-par quota students (of course, they often need those classes for some of the kids on athletic scholarships, and for some of the dimmer legacy students too).


2 posted on 07/02/2015 6:48:08 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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I think Affirmative Action has outlived it's usefulness by far, even those who originally supported the idea ought to realize that.

3 posted on 07/02/2015 6:59:07 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Affirmative Action = giving unfair advantage to a minority for the supposed purpose of achieving equality.

“Minority” is a rather relative term these days. Blacks are obviously the minority if you count them alone but if you lump them together with Hispanics clearly whites become the minority. Affirmative action has run its course. All it has achieved is giving positions of power or employment to persons that are less qualified who have usually made a mess of things. Many police chiefs in large metroplexes come to mind. Its time to drop AA and let the best qualified persons be chosen for the job.


4 posted on 07/02/2015 7:00:39 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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By giving it a warm fuzzy nice-sounding name, they fooled Americans for 50 years. If they had named it what it is: “No jobs for qualified Whiteys”, we would not be having this debate now.


5 posted on 07/02/2015 7:03:12 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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“AFFIRMATIVE ACTION” = State-sanctioned Racism.

“Let’s use racism as a tool to end racism.” The fascists who believe in “Affirmative Action” fail to see the blatant hypocrisy in their actions.

Furthermore, so-called “Affirmative Action” is WORSE than arbitrary racism by individuals... Why? Because it has the added element of fascism by using our government to commit acts of racism. Nothing “affirmative” about this.

If used in college admissions, so-called “Affirmative Action” is essentially a throwback to the deep south discrimination of the 50’s and 60’s, only with another racial group other than whites being preferred.

Imagine that instead of the present online or by-mail college application processes, everyone had to physically go to the College admissions office and stand in line to apply... Affirmative action would REQUIRE SEPARATE LINES BASED ON SKIN COLOR with Al Sharptongue and Jesse Jacker pre-screening who goes to which line:

—”OK, dude, your skin is BLACK, so you go to the African American Express student admissions line.”

—”OK, dude, you skin is WHITE, so you go to the ‘White Guilt remedial class’ and if you pander enough and pretend to be black, we might consider your application.”

Pathetic. This is the neo racism of our times and nobody sees it.


7 posted on 07/02/2015 7:05:31 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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Kill it. AA is state sponsored reverse discrimination.


8 posted on 07/02/2015 7:14:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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So when do those who suffered from AA get reparations?


9 posted on 07/02/2015 7:47:53 AM PDT by Bluebeard16
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SCOTUS is going to double down on affirmative action. Heck, it just said it was okay to apply race-based preferences for disparate impact that happens naturally. The government will pay part of the cost for under-performers to move into expensive neighborhoods.

O'Connor gave what, 25 years in Grutter v. Bollinger? That was handed down in 2003, and it hasn't been 25 years, yet.

We last addressed the use of race in public higher education over 25 years ago. In the landmark Bakke case, we reviewed a racial set-aside program that reserved 16 out of 100 seats in a medical school class for members of certain minority groups. 438 U. S. 265 (1978). The decision produced six separate opinions, none of which commanded a majority of the Court. Four Justices would have upheld the program against all attack on the ground that the government can use race to "remedy disadvantages cast on minorities by past racial prejudice." Id., at 325 (joint opinion of Brennan, White, Marshall, and Blackmun, JJ., concurring in judgment in part and dissenting in part). Four other Justices avoided the constitutional question altogether and struck down the program on statutory grounds. Id., at 408 (opinion of STEVENS, J., joined by Burger, C. J., and Stewart and REHNQUIST, JJ., concurring in judgment in part and dissenting in part). Justice Powell provided a fifth vote not only for invalidating the set-aside program, but also for reversing the state court's injunction against any use of race whatsoever. The only holding for the Court in Bakke was that a "State has a substantial interest that legitimately may be served by a properly devised admissions program involving the competitive consideration of race and ethnic origin." ...

It has been 25 years since Justice Powell first approved the use of race to further an interest in student body diversity in the context of public higher education. Since that time, the number of minority applicants with high grades and test scores has indeed increased. See Tr. of Oral Arg. 43. We expect that 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest approved today.

Click on the link to read some of Sandra O'Connor's amusing opinion, include an ode to diversity for diversity's sake, and asserting that American Business craves diversity, and government legitimacy depends on diversity.

SCOTUS has gone further left since the Grutter decision was handed down. Smart money bets on upholding any race-based preference, as long as the race being benefited is underperforming.

The more they underperform, the more pronounced the need for preference. That is liberal logic, and that is what the law will impose.

14 posted on 07/02/2015 9:54:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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People who govern any given society quite naturally carve out benefits for themselves and their fellows. A coalition of blacks, Mexicans, Sodomites, Asians and Non-Christians have now replaced abdicating whites. What do you expect? Of course they will give themselves benefits; i.e. our wealth, office, schools, jobs, churches, businesses etc. etc.

Only members of the white race are stupid enough to believe the propaganda that we are going to don diaphanous gowns, garland our heads with flowers and then hand in hand with our Third World brothers dance across sun drenched flower strewn fields.

17 posted on 07/02/2015 10:04:03 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Don’t know why this remains. The country has proven that it doesn’t work. Look at he White Mosque for the proof.

Affirmative action + on-the-job training = Obama


19 posted on 07/02/2015 10:31:18 AM PDT by JayAr36 (What happened to America? Move over Roman Empire we are coming.)
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I'm weary of the "good intentions" excuse.
Affirmative action is a disaster with far reaching detriment to society.
I contend that there would be no disastrous Obama administration if not for his imprimatur of the colleges that apparently gave him his degrees.

I believe these colleges, consequently, stand to lose credibility when their graduates are ultimately revealed to be incompetent and dishonest.
And this harm to society caused by affirmative action is not limited to politics, but politics is the field in which the harm by a single individual affirmative action beneficiary affects the citizenry more broadly.

25 posted on 07/02/2015 11:42:52 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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