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Fed to Mandate that Cars “Broadcast Speed and Location Data” Promise Not to Use it Against You
free thought project ^ | July 3, 2015 | Justin Gardner

Posted on 07/04/2015 2:18:46 PM PDT by upchuck

Federal government is currently crafting a mandate that would require all new vehicles to “talk” to each other continuously. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration plans to submit their proposed “connected car” rule by the end of this year.

Vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) communication technology has been developed by top automakers over the past decade and is ready for commercialization. It uses a combination of Wi-Fi, GPS data, and sensor data collected by the vehicle to transmit a signal on speed and position 10 times a second.

Like so many technologies, V2V is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it has great potential to reduce car crashes, which claim 37,000 lives a year in the U.S. It also means that your driving data will be broadcast openly, making it easy for interested parties to intercept this information.

“V2V ups privacy concerns because it essentially broadcasts a vehicle’s location and speed, as well as some information about where a vehicle has been previously, to anyone within range. And while Department of Transportation officials told the GAO that “V2V communication security system would contain multiple technical, physical, and organizational controls to minimize privacy risks—including the risk of vehicle tracking by individuals and government or commercial entities,” regulating who can use V2V data and for what would fall outside the Department of Transportation’s span of control. It would essentially require legislation by Congress.”

Considering the mass surveillance being carried out by the National Security Agency and other agencies, it is highly unlikely that authorities would ignore this potent source of information. Local governments could use the data to track those they consider “bad actors.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marxism; maxism
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To: upchuck

I will be keeping my 2006 Ford 150 4x4 longer than I expected.

Also I might ride more on my 1981 CB900C more which is not a bad thing.


21 posted on 07/04/2015 2:39:38 PM PDT by MAKOTHEDOG
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To: upchuck

F U FEDS!

Just keep pushing, assholes. Reckoning is near.


22 posted on 07/04/2015 2:41:24 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Your Social Security Number won’t be used for identification.

Failure to wear a seatbelt will never be a primary offense.

And all the lemmings chimed in...

"Oh, they would NEVER do that!"

23 posted on 07/04/2015 2:43:27 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: upchuck

“Here we go again. Get your V2V-free vehicle now. “

Yeah, the new car market will tank, and the used car market will surge. Buy up a bunch of used cars if this turkey gets to see the light of day. OTOH it may be like the seatbelt interlock cars of 1974, which were gone immediately.


24 posted on 07/04/2015 2:44:24 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: upchuck
Then I'll be driving one of these.

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25 posted on 07/04/2015 2:46:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( "Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: fuzzylogic

“OnStar is not so different in terms of being able to track you.”

Oh yes it is. It isn’t vehicle to vehicle. As for this being “difficult for criminals to use,” get serious. Just look at what the Chinks just took from us.


26 posted on 07/04/2015 2:47:26 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Red Badger

“The check is in the mail, yes, I’ll respect you in the morning, no I won’t c.........”

And never forget, “It’s only a cold sore!”


27 posted on 07/04/2015 2:48:17 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: upchuck

The ABA loves it.


28 posted on 07/04/2015 2:49:36 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: upchuck

Vehicles equipped with tire pressure monitors broadcast data that can be used to identify a vehicle as it passes a receiver and decoder placed near the roadway. This is because each tire pressure transmitter is built with a unique 32 bit ID number like the “MAC address” on ethernet adapters.

In the US, the system broadcasts on 315 MHz.

Their installation became standard in the 2008 model year.


29 posted on 07/04/2015 2:52:54 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: upchuck
Fed to Mandate that Cars “Broadcast Speed and Location Data” Promise Not to Use it Against You

Tell the Sheeple that they will get automatic tickets through email, twitter and facebook, and their fines will be automatically deducted from their computer connected bank accounts.

They don't have to bother showing up for trial, their guilt is taken for granted. Their cars will testify against them. :)

30 posted on 07/04/2015 2:54:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: fuzzylogic
If you like sitting at red lights when nobody is coming on the green light then fine but I personally would rather have those days (accumulative minutes) of my life back.

In which dream world are you living? Traffic lights can already tell if no cars are approaching or running through the intersection on the cross streets; but they STILL give you the long red just the same. Adding RF to the mix will just allow the traffic light controllers to ignore more data.

Be smart, resist BIG BROTHER.

31 posted on 07/04/2015 2:55:07 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: fuzzylogic

You can always pull the fuse to the OnStar system, but just like with airbags, the government will probably make it a crime to disconnect this new “feature” which will be declared to be “for safety”.


32 posted on 07/04/2015 2:55:19 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

bttt


33 posted on 07/04/2015 2:56:46 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: upchuck

Two questions:

When (if) is this likely to happen?

Will this working be part of your car’s required functionality? In other words, will you be fined if it’s temporarily disabled, or if it doesn’t work at inspection?


34 posted on 07/04/2015 2:57:28 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: DiogenesLamp
This article examined the consequences of such technology a decade ago.
35 posted on 07/04/2015 2:57:41 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: upchuck

Aren’t we already sending this information via our GPS and smart phones?


36 posted on 07/04/2015 2:57:46 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: upchuck

“V2V communication security system would contain multiple technical, physical, and organizational controls to minimize privacy risks—including the risk of vehicle tracking by individuals and government or commercial entities,”

If they are truly serious about privacy, the system would generate a random ID each time the car is started from a stopped position. I won’t hold my breath. Government always finds it easy to give government a pass to secure the power it craves over us.


37 posted on 07/04/2015 2:58:13 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: upchuck

“V2V communication security system would contain multiple technical, physical, and organizational controls to minimize privacy risks—including the risk of vehicle tracking by individuals and government or commercial entities,”

If they are truly serious about privacy, the system would generate a random ID each time the car is started from a stopped position. I won’t hold my breath. Government always finds it easy to give government a pass to secure the power it craves over us.


38 posted on 07/04/2015 2:58:14 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: fuzzylogic
tbh I’m not against this. It would be very difficult for a criminal to use this to know if you’re not home. I’m not sure that the protocols even allow for knowing the specific vehicle. This is about reducing crashes and improving traffic efficiency.

There are valid technical reasons for why this would be a good thing. There are valid technical reasons for why this would also be a bad thing.

Given the tendency of things to slew towards fascism, this will also be made to slew towards fascism if it ever gets its foot in the door.

The Democrats will come along and say "We already have the equipment in the vehicles, we are just seeking to implement it more fully. "

39 posted on 07/04/2015 2:58:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: fuzzylogic
If you like sitting at red lights when nobody is coming on the green light then fine but I personally would rather have those days (accumulative minutes) of my life back.

How does this system change that?

40 posted on 07/04/2015 3:03:32 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panels.)
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