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Expert: Arab Armies 'Falling Apart,' IDF Will Have to Fight ISIS
Arutz Sheva ^ | 3/7/15 | Yaakov Levi

Posted on 07/04/2015 4:40:33 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

Israel's former ambassador to Egypt, Zvi Mazel, currently a researcher at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (JCPA), believes that the Egyptian army is not going to be able to successfully fight ISIS. In the end, he believes, the IDF is going to have to do the job.

“The Egyptian army has not collapsed, and it is very large, with 600,000 soldiers,” said Mazel. “But for two years they have been fighting guerrillas in Sinai, unsuccessfully. They are just not experienced enough in guerrilla warfare.”

Eventually, it is very possible that ISIS will take over Sinai – placing them along Israel's longest border. If that happens, the IDF is going to have to fight ISIS on its own. “Already some of ISIS is in Sinai, operating near the Israeli border,” said Mazel.

The problem is not just in Egypt, but in nearly all Arab countries. “They have huge armies but they fall apart in the face of a threat from a relatively small group,” said Mazel. “Unlike in the north, where there are some groups that hold Hezbollah back from opening a front against us, ISIS are true fanatics who are looking forward to fighting Israel.

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Egypt; Extended News; Israel; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: daesh; egypt; fatah; gaza; hamas; hezbollah; isil; isis; israel; lebanon; sinai; syria; waronterror
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To: vladimir998

Interesting. However, it does not explain why groups like ISIS are having such success.


21 posted on 07/04/2015 5:29:26 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: W.

I can’t wait to see the IDF tear the ISIS bastards apart. Like the first Gulf War. Bets on how many [few] hours it takes them?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

But this would put Israel in a difficult spot. Sure, they could demolish ISIS in a VERY short time, but the political result might be to unite and inflame the Muslim world against them.

It’s not fair and it doesn’t make sense. But that’s an operative definition of Islam.


22 posted on 07/04/2015 5:30:13 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Paladin2
How many years does it take to adapt to and crush the enemy?

Countless when a large enough percentage of your forces believe the terrorists are the good guys.

23 posted on 07/04/2015 5:31:11 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Eccl 10:2
...but the political result might be to unite and inflame the Muslim world against them.

What if there were no Islamic world?

24 posted on 07/04/2015 5:33:44 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: Eccl 10:2

I know, but if ISIS comes knocking, the IDF will answer the door. I don’t want it to happen, but we all know how it’s gonna work out if it does. Which is my point...


25 posted on 07/04/2015 5:34:33 PM PDT by W. ( Animals are much stupider since Noah's Ark, because of inbreeding.--Oglaf)
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To: Eleutheria5

Conscripted armies tend to not perform as well as volunteer armies.


26 posted on 07/04/2015 5:34:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: fso301

Well, that explains 0bama.


27 posted on 07/04/2015 5:42:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I always liked that one.


28 posted on 07/04/2015 5:47:17 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Eleutheria5
But if the terrorists can get used to it, why not Egyptian troops?

Motivation

29 posted on 07/04/2015 5:47:53 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (.)
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To: rbg81
However, it does not explain why groups like ISIS are having such success.

Well.... ISIS has the backing of the US Government.

30 posted on 07/04/2015 5:48:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Aqaba! Aqaba!


31 posted on 07/04/2015 5:55:57 PM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: rbg81

“Interesting. However, it does not explain why groups like ISIS are having such success.”

True, it doesn’t say it but isn’t logical to conclude that it boils down to two things?:

1) They don’t think, plan, or act the same way the Arab national armies do - or at least not to the same degree.

2) ISIS is fighting Arab national armies which are all deficient - as the articles point out.

The Kurds - who are not Arabs - have had some bis successes against ISIS even without heavy equipment (gee, thanks for nothing Obama). And the Turks probably could crush ISIS in a matter of weeks. It’s not that ISIS is oh so good. It is that everyone they are fighting is oh so terribly bad.


32 posted on 07/04/2015 5:59:08 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: MUDDOG

The Egyptians apparently lack good aerial intelligence as well as on the ground as to where the ISIS fighters operate from (though the Egyptian Air Force has been conducting raids on known or suspected camps).

This is where Israel will be quietly helping Sisi and the Egyptians, and on occasion, take out a ripe target on the sly, giving credit to the EAF.

The Sinai is big but the Israelis know it very well. Let’s see what happens in the next month or two. I wouldn’t be surprised if the ISIS forces get their asses kicked badly.


33 posted on 07/04/2015 6:05:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Excellent!


34 posted on 07/04/2015 6:06:20 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: vladimir998

Money quote: “Add in the fantasy mindset. Don’t forget “Insh’allah,” (Which is like “mañana,” but without the sense of urgency)...”

Read more: http://www.everyjoe.com/2014/09/01/politics/why-arab-armies-bad-worthless/#ixzz3eyVa0i5Z


35 posted on 07/04/2015 6:08:07 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (.)
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To: vladimir998

Also, unlike the typical Arab soldier, ISIS recruits believe in a cause.
Af
From what I’ve read, it seems most Iraqi soldiers were in it for the pay and the pay only. Once any risk presented itself, they dropped their weapons and ran. Afghan soldiers are probably the same way.


36 posted on 07/04/2015 6:09:37 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Eleutheria5

Let’s see Nuclear weapons and a band of murderous lunatics.


37 posted on 07/04/2015 6:48:10 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Eleutheria5

Young Arabs (Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, Saudis whatever) were brought up as Muslims.

Whatever accident of where they were born, they still identify as Muslims.

The regime where they live is just the regime. Why should they die for that, as opposed to merely giving way?

Not to mention, wherever they are, a significant part of the populations want ISIS to win.


38 posted on 07/04/2015 6:49:22 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Who lived in the Wilderness of Paran?

The Paranoid people?

39 posted on 07/04/2015 6:56:27 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Eccl 10:2
It’s not fair and it doesn’t make sense. But that’s an operative definition of Islam.

and the opposite side of the same islamic coin

liberalism.
40 posted on 07/04/2015 7:19:31 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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