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Why may the government ban businesses from saying “we won’t bake cakes for same-sex weddings”?
Washington Post ^ | 07/07/2015 | By Eugene Volokh

Posted on 07/07/2015 7:24:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: concerned about politics

Yes I was referring to post 12


41 posted on 07/07/2015 9:27:56 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: ctdonath2
Where’s that Wednesday Addams “I baked your cake, now eat it” pic?

It has been banned in Oregon and Brad Avakian will use the long arm statute to go after any site that publishes it where it might be seen in Oregon.

/s

42 posted on 07/07/2015 9:33:41 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: thefactor

RE: If I owned the bakery I’d put a large sign stating my beliefs in plain English.

Would that include believing that marriage is only for one man and one woman?


43 posted on 07/07/2015 9:44:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Gay marriage is not a salient issue to me. I don’t care. And I’m not religious. I do have major issues with judicial activism, however. I believe that marriage was formed in order to promote a stable society and to produce children. That’s why the government confers benefits to married people.


44 posted on 07/07/2015 11:25:15 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: SeekAndFind

I still don’t understand why anyone would want to force someone to make them a food item.


45 posted on 07/07/2015 5:45:52 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: KosmicKitty

RE: I still don’t understand why anyone would want to force someone to make them a food item.

Understand this — It is NOT about the wedding cake. The lesbian couple had MANY OTHER bakers who would do this for them.

It is about FORCING ACCEPTANCE of a lifestyle and NATIONALIZING it.


46 posted on 07/07/2015 5:48:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course it is. Otherwise it makes no sense.


47 posted on 07/07/2015 6:42:49 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: SeekAndFind

Each person here should be working hard to get State Legislatures to enact SHIELD laws to prevent the craziness this author describes is good.. Shield Laws and laws to change from marriage licensing to after the fact marriage contract registration done on line or at a computer kiosk in the county clerks office — DONE DIY ...

Also get laws changed to remove the certification or licensing to perform marriage — do it in a church ... If anyone can marry then anyone can marry a couple.

Get government and business OUT OF THE MARRY BUSINESS.


48 posted on 07/07/2015 11:39:49 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: SeekAndFind

So what about all those places that have the sign that reads, “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone”

Do they have to put a disclaimer(unless you happen to be gay, muslim or an illegal immigrant-then we are required by law to do your bidding)


49 posted on 07/07/2015 11:59:18 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S./CDC=Contagion Distribution Center)
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To: KosmicKitty

Because it’s not about the food item. They never intended to use the cake. It’s about finding someone who says they won’t bake the cake, then suing them.


50 posted on 07/08/2015 7:24:11 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: AppyPappy

So.... can two men who are not gay get married ?


51 posted on 07/08/2015 7:25:19 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: concerned about politics
(you have hit on the truth)

These people are not looking for someone to bake them a cake. They are looking for someone to refuse to bake them a cake.

52 posted on 07/08/2015 7:27:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gays are so screwed.


53 posted on 07/08/2015 7:29:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am so screwed.)
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To: concerned about politics

Actually, the LAW is that if the bartender gives someone obviously drunk ANOTHER DRINK, and that drunk kills someone in an accident, the Bartender can lose their license and be held accountable for the death.

I.E. The bartender has a legal right, and duty to REFUSE SERVICE.

A gunshop owner can REFUSE to sell you a gun, by LAW.

Ergo we already have precedents in place supporting any kind of business owner’s right to REFUSE SERVICE.


54 posted on 07/08/2015 7:32:18 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: mrsmel
First of all, I want to see this applied to Muslim businesses-I want to see a test case where someone actually tries to order a cake decorated with a cross from them. Secondly, I want to see someone try to order a cake from a black bakery decorated with “KKK” and a figure wearing a hood, or a Jewish bakery with a cake decorated with a swastika.

In the first example you may have a case because that is discrimination based on religiouos beliefs, which is illegal. In the second two the bakers can refuse without fear of government interference because Klan members and Nazis are not a protected class.

55 posted on 07/08/2015 7:38:34 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: UCANSEE2

Yes. I’m sure they will eventually be more prevalent.


56 posted on 07/08/2015 7:39:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy

What about marrying more than one person ?

That way I could marry one person just for the sex, and the other for the money.


57 posted on 07/08/2015 8:01:29 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Already being done in 20% of the world.


58 posted on 07/08/2015 8:02:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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