Posted on 07/10/2015 9:12:57 PM PDT by Auntie Mame
What you say here is what I think. The judge in this case has picked a battle she cannot win. You can't fight against psycho parents; you can only let time take care of the matter. The children will eventually, like your brother's children, figure it out themselves. Fighting it will only make it worse. The judge needs to be removed from family law cases. She must be a leftist. They're the only ones who think you can fight human nature and win.
sorry but in this particular case you are wrong..
the judge has seen this case for years, and has a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding it than you or I...
the children need to be deprogrammed... period...
the mother needs to be incarcerated ( but no elected judge will ever throw a mother in jail)..
I back this call based upon personal experience...
But, these days, the court's "concern for the well being of the children" is a bit off. Even if one parent is using drugs or hooking up with people at rest stops or physically abusing the other parent, the court will order visitation with that parent.
So, the judge's contention that the father is wonderful and the mother is evil really doesn't tell us much. Maybe the mother did brainwash the children, or maybe not.
Unfortunately, there are many fathers who've had the same experience. However, that doesn't mean that's what's happening in this case.
See my post #43 above.
Why did the Judge reverse her own ruling on the matter?
Her previous ruling was that the children would be detained in children's village until such time that they either talked to their father to his satisfaction or they turned 18.....
So why the sudden change in ruling?
CYA
My spider senses are screaming power tripping dad with a good lawyer and the Judges ear.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven...if the dad loves his kids so much why is he in Israel and not there seeing his kids every day as the Judge authorized.
Not a dude. I’m a “dudette.”
Yes, you make a good point.
I’m trying to look at this case objectively. Personally, all I can say about this case is that I don’t know what the truth is. Maybe he’s the one power-tripping, or maybe she’s been manipulative, or maybe something else is going on. I don’t know... but the children should never have been put into jail, and the judge should not have spoken to them the way she did in court.
Did I say that right?
(kidding)
“So, the judge’s contention that the father is wonderful and the mother is evil really doesn’t tell us much. Maybe the mother did brainwash the children, or maybe not.”
I think the judge is simply trying to enforce the family court’s value that children have a good relationship with each parent. She encountered stiff resistance from the mother to the point of the children refusing to eat lunch with him in the courthouse cafeteria. That’s a pretty strong indicator of tremendous alienation of affection i.e. brainwashing.
Here’s the recent court proceeding leading to the children being sent to summer camp by the court. The latter speaker is the children’s advocate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LB9IBcCLGKs
What I find most disturbing about this entire incident is so-called conservatives knee-jerk advocacy of mass media, msm and popular culture’s vilification of men in general and fathers in particular.
Apology accepted. LOL.
Possibly. Or maybe the father is the one with issues, and the children are reacting to that. We just don't know.
I noticed that, in stories about divorce cases, many people here assume the mother must be evil and the father an innocent victim.
Just because a father accuses a mother of alienating the children from him doesn't mean that's the case. Even if everyone in the entire court system is on his side, that still doesn't mean the mother truly is doing what they all claim. Maybe she is, or maybe she isn't.
I'm withholding any opinion, except my opinion that the judge shouldn't have spoken that way to those children or sent them to a detention center.
So called conservatives?
So anyone who isnt seeing this the same you do isnt a conservative?
What the hell?
The childs advocate even mentions that 6 deputies couldnt INTIMIDATE the children into talking even though they had guns....or did you not hear that part?
And where is the rest of the hearing?
Who is Dave W and how did he obtain this footage?
Will the rest of the Video record also be released?
And since I’m a divorced father of three......you can shove the vilification charge...I told you...the actions of the father also ring some alarm bells...why is he STILL in Israel?
He is acting like this is a fight over community property rather than his children....and if the mother fears the husband taking the kids away...it looks like those fears are well founded....as that is exactly what the fathers lawyer has filed for...full custody.
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