Posted on 07/11/2015 2:01:18 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
If doctors are allowed to surgically change the bodies of people who want to live as the opposite sex, shouldn’t therapists be allowed to help change the minds of people who want to be attracted to the opposite sex? Not according to the homosexual lobby, the powerful Southern Poverty Law Center, and a likeminded judge, they’re not.
A New Jersey-based organization called JONAH, “Jews Offering New Alternatives for Healing,” has found this out the hard way. JONAH offers what is known as “reparative therapy,” which seeks to help people struggling with unwanted feelings of same-sex attraction (SSA). Unfortunately for people with unwanted SSA, however, those providing such services are unwanted by the homosexual lobby. And this fact was punctuated June 25 — a day before the Supreme Court’s infamous faux-marriage ruling — when a jury found that JONAH had supposedly violated the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act.
JONAH’s mission statement makes clear that theirs is a service only for those who genuinely want to experience normal sexual desire and also states, "Through psychological and spiritual counseling, peer support, and self-empowerment, JONAH seeks to reunify families, to heal the wounds surrounding homosexuality, and to provide hope..."
(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...
What separates humans from animals is the ability to control these urges. You don’t (I hope) urinate whenever and wherever you get the urge, or expect to complete a sexual act whenever and wherever you experience arousal.
‘If it feels good, do it’ is bad enough in that it is selfish and is used to justify immorality, but what is going on now is much worse.
Now it is ‘If it feels good, I must do it immediately and with no limitations and if you don’t applaud my lack of control and approve of all of my behavior you are discriminatory and ‘inhumane’.
Kind of ironical, don’t you think?
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Nope. This wasn’t a criminal case. It was a civil case. The organization lost on the grounds of fraud. They were charging big bucks for a service that had no efficacy. Judging from that testimony, they are a bunch of quacks.
Exactly!
Wow! Very good!
They know it is a learned behavior from childhood abuse and neglect. All homosexual cultures are pederastic.
It is why homosexuals always go after the boys—like the “priests” even when they had access to young males galore-—because the priests all had been abused as boys, like Harry Hays, founder of the homosexual movement who loved NAMBLA (Man/boy sex). Those embedded sexual emotions/desires needed to be recreated. All twin studies prove there is NO genetic factor....it is all about grooming and emasculating little boys and removing healthy, moral role models. Children will embed behaviors which are learned in early childhood-—meaning desires and likes and interests. All homosexuals were traumatized in childhood—like every single serial killer. They have warped perceptions of Reality, sexuality and masculine and feminine.
That is why it is essential for babies to have a male/female family structure to learn their roles and proper human interactions between the most diverse in population: Male/female. All homosexual cultures are extremely sexist and brutal and are pederastic-—use boys for sex-—like the Samurai and the Spartans and Afghanis.
This pretending that males and females are interchangeable is to warp and destroy maturity in children—to confuse them which is easily done and prevents a Western Civ. “Mind” (worldview)-—one which understands the Laws of Nature and nature’s God. All Eastern minds are collective/shun Individualism—a Christian concept which gives dignity and worth to ALL people (uniqueness). Eastern cultures don’t have that—they are made dependent/servile to the State.
They are destroying risk/John Wayne type males—and that is why the hyper sexualization in schools and TV for decades-—to collapse civil society. Sexualization is the easiest way to destroy moral formation in males and prevent mature, masculine males (ones who love and care for the Other and all his children (true diversity, true maturity). Western Civ. ideology of Natural Law and Individualism has to be destroyed in the future minds so they are emasculating the boys—teaching self-hate and narcissism and sexualizing children during latency which destroys normal sexual identity formation which needs innocence for the Wonder and Mystery which confers dignity and respect for the Other. Marxism has to force hate of the Other-—sexualization in early ages makes children hate the others because of the herd instinct (natural immaturity) in children.
Fichte sated it was essential to destroy Free Will (choice) in children and make them so irrational that “snow is black” so they will be “happy slaves” with no police force or military needed. It is an Inca mindset.
They created the Prussina system of mass indoctrination which was implemented and made mandatory with younger and younger children forced aways from the Natural Family, so all Common Sense and individualism/independence could be slammed right out of their little heads for massive “group think” and immaturity into the 40s.
Nope. All APA “psychology” is a pseudo-science today. All the “new” psychology that removed homosexuality off of the mental ill list is the fraud.
ALL psychology today is previewed through a Marxist (fraudulent), fascist Lens, which allows no TRUE SCIENCE-—NO DEBATE-—NO TRUTH and which promotes nothing but a bunch of lies and misinformation.
They are after the destruction of moral mature males, and the destruction of Christianity in particular, because it is the only ethics system which created individualism and uniqueness and the Leftists need Collective (group think) minds——that are so irrational they believe “snow is black” (Fichte 1810).. Trying to pretend males and females are interchangeable is pure Marxism and the destruction of Western Civ (Christianity) so they can have tribal, collective (non-thinking), puerile people.
The fact is that all homosexuality, etc, is a learned behavior and all emotions (irrational) are embedded in early childhood from trauma and neglect and lack of moral role models.
All behaviors are learned and sexual desires are inserted by interactions in early childhood-—whether children will hate or love females, etc.....all is determined by their childhood experiences. Twin studies prove there is no “gay” gene. Trauma in childhood will pervert the desires-—or lack of moral role models.
Like today”s Afghani harem boys, they learn to hate and mutilate women and will when they grow up, and they lust after males, boys and goats. Almost like all the other sexist homosexual cultures, which always groom boys (pederasty is normal and necessary for grooming for the unnatural lifestyle).—like the Samurai and the Spartans. All brutal, pederastic, sexists cultures and as Hari and Lively documented, all fascist groups were founded by homosexuals (Bolsheviks/Nazi SA, etc). They are haters, particularly of God and self.
No one is born with unnatural desires. They are created by abuse.
My “nope” was a response to your two questions. Are you suggesting that the treatment described in that video deposition has any hope of changing sexual orientation? It looks like a sick, exploitative fraud to me. I can see why they lost if they were charging money for that.
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Yes—there has been effective “cures” of same-sex attractions. It has been documented.
The fact is that government should NEVER dictate what people can and can not do in these situations-—it is their CHOICE.
What “cures” any human being CHOOSES for themselves or their CHILDREN should be up to that person..
The government organizations-—like the APA is totally corrupt. The universities are TOTALLY CORRUPT. Psychologists are screened now and if they “think” critically (Classically)-—they are deemed irrational or incompetent and not certified. They have to think like an irrational Satanist or they are denied faculty positions, etc.
The “psychological department” is an arm of evil German psychology-—that which is Wundtian/Fichte based——to destroy Truth, God, Western Civilization, “Sin” and collapse morality-—and to replace it with “scientism” and socialism/totalitarianism.
To reduce man to godless animal to be conditioned like a dog and create minds that “think” like a dog. Operant conditioning is all that the schools and “science’ are about and government has way overstepped ALL AREAS OF LIFE. Government needs to be BOOTED from almost EVERYTHING and every “decision” in a family. Obamacare is a Marxist system and needs to be BOOTED-—it is ALL unconstitutional.
Whoever thinks government “cares” about YOU and your mental health is INSANE.....they don’t care-—they want you DEAD if you are a useless eater. GOVERNMENT NEVER protects you from FRAUD....they CREATE the FRAUD and the SYSTEM which denies YOU your Natural Rights from GOD. They make you a SLAVE for their STATE....and if you don’t do as they say-—you will suffer-—like the Christian BAKERS-—”THINK” only ONE WAY_—the MARXIST, Satanic WAY and teach YOUR children that LIES are TRUTH, that sodomizing others is GOOD.
It IS law in New Jersey. Hence the article.
“Changing your mind is somewhat easier than changing autonomic, physiological responses”
Sure, it’s like smoking. You see a cig, you want it, your heart rate goes up, etc. A strong desire.
But you know it’s bad for you, you know you shouldn’t, you know it’s irresponsible, etc., so you decide not to. Over time it gets easier and most smokers report no temptation after a varying period of time.
It can be done. You just have to want to. It doesn’t mean it’s easy; it just means it’s right.
FTR, I can say you’re right about smoking. It still feels like I should smoke, but getting myself not to do it is nowhere near as hard as it was say years ago.
Again, this was not a criminal case. It was a civil case. The suit was about the fraudulent practice of charging big bucks to cure gay men by blindfolding them and having them cuddle naked with ex-gay leaders and having wild naked male parties in the woods. There was a whole lot of blindfolding naked male patients in the presence of ex-gay leaders who were touching them “therapeutically.” Wanna explain how that’s supposed to work? Did you watch the deposition?
It’s sick, exploitive fraud to charge money for that and call it a cure.
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