Boehner: Confederate Flag ‘Should Be Gone’ from National Cemeteries

Breitbart ^ | July 10, 2015 | Pam Key

[BlackElk]

Did you hold a seance???? In their lives, the founders had no qualms about defying George III and defeating his forces. The south had EVERY right to leave. If the north could only hold the south in by force, then the nation of the founders was already gone the moment that the northern tyranny resorted to force.

Washington was a slave owner. So was Jefferson. Madison and Monroe were of the Virginia dynasty and likely had slaves and certainly did not object to slavery. Do you hallucinate that any of them believed in racial equality? Neither did Lincoln. Read his speeches from the Lincoln-Douglas debates.

I get that you regard racial equality as progress. So do I. The difference is that I refuse to engage in historical revisionism to cram the square peg of the founders into the round hole of modernism. The founders were who they were and not who you wish they were.

Again re-read the Declaration of Independence before you ascribe to the founders views they NEVER held. I don't care what your gummint skewel leftist teacher taught you. I do care about history. Our Pilgrim forefathers came to New England to freely practice their religion by having a place of their own where they were FREE to persecute any who disagreed with them. I bet you weren't taught that either but it was true nonetheless.

By your reckoning, Fort Sumter and all of South Carolina and each and every state must have been British property. The founders not only approved of secession but practiced it and left the Declaration behind to encourage it when the circumstances might warrant it as they did in 1861. The south NEVER bought off on being ruled by the Unitarian (or worse) abolitionist lunatics of New England exemplified by John Brown.

[KEVLAR]

Tom,

Please read a little history. And think.

Thanks in advance.

[Repeal The 17th]

Confederate Confiscations:
By the day of Lincoln’s Inaugural, the seven states in the new Confederacy had seized Federal property including most of the forts and arsenals in the territory of the Confederacy. Two of these forts, which lay offshore, had not been seized: Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor; and Fort Pickens in Pensacola Harbor.

Both of these positions, however, were in a state of siege. Men and supplies were not permitted to pass in or out except by the consent of Confederate officials, and contingents of the Confederate army were posted watchfully by.
Artillery fire had already driven back a vessel which had sought to bring supplies to Fort Sumter. Those two forts presented a critical problem to both Federal and Confederate governments. To the Confederacy, the presence of Federal troops seemed a threat of coercion; while to the Union, the military efforts of the Confederacy to compel withdrawal from the forts seemed treason against the American flag.

South Carolina seizures:
Castle Pinckney
Fort Moultrie
United States Arsenal at Charleston
Fort Johnson

Georgia seizures:
Fort Pulaski
United States Arsenal at Augusta
Oglethorpe Barracks
Fort Jackson
Dahlonega Mint

Alabama seizures:
United States Arsenal at Mount Vernon
Fort Morgan
Fort Gaines

Mississippi seizure:
Fort Massachusetts on Ship Island

Florida seizures:
United States Arsenal at Apalachicola
Fort Marion
Barrancas Barracks
Fort Barrancas
Fort McRee
Pensacola Navy Yard (Warrington Ship Yard)

North Carolina seizures:
Fort Johnston
Fort Caswell
Fort Macon
United States Arsenal at Fayetteville
Charlotte Mint

Louisiana seizures:
United States Arsenal at Baton Rouge
Baton Rouge Barrack
Fort Jackson
Fort Saint Philip
Fort Pike
Fort Macomb
United States paymaster’s office at New Orleans
New Orleans Mint

Texas seizures:
United States Arsenal at San Antonio
San Antonio Barracks
Camp Verde
Fort Clark

Arkansas seizures:
United States Arsenal at Little Rock
United States ordnance stores at Napoleon
United States subsistence stores at Pine Bluff
Fort Smith

Missouri seizures:
United States Arsenal at Liberty
United States ordnance stores at Kansas City