Posted on 07/12/2015 6:33:42 AM PDT by richardskeet
“That is, if a Democrat like Hillary wins the White House, but the Republicans can keep control of the House and Senate, it will go a long way to, at least, keep Hillary under control.”
Nice thought, but based on wishful thinking.
What evidence can you point to that will make what you say more than pure speculation?
Brat isn’t a good example of philosophy/message over $$$. How many other under-financed primary candidates succeeded in taking out powerful incumbents? Somehow, McConnell/Boehner/Roberts, et al. managed to win. Again.
We saw it and loved it. Also loved watching The Donald just trash Jebbie. A total howlfest. :-)
False choice = STRAWMAN
Agree?
You can see Cruz going into Arizona, (his first month,) drawing a crowd of 10,000 people, and attacking John Mccain? I can’t.
In fact HE DIDN’T! (So I guess your argument falls apart on face value.)
I can see it, Argument did not fall apart. (Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina more important) FACT
Cruz has raised some money, (before Trump announced,) I wonder how much he will continue to raise if his poll numbers continue falling?
We will see. Won’t we.
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Actually, I think what Trump is doing will set up nicely for Cruz. At some point people will tire of Trump’s bluster but not of his message. At that time many union people will be in the Trump camp. If Trump falters, and he will I believe, the natural beneficiary of his fall will be Cruz, who has many of the same ideas, but not so much ego.
I’m glad Trump is tearing into Jeb like General Patton tore into Nazis but when the dust settles I want a sober sane conservative named Ted Cruz leading the ticket.
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Anybody know the last time McCain drew 10,000? Likely his failed 2008 run
No. A strawman argument would be if I took a point of contention someone else MADE, then twisted it and exaggerated it to a point of near characature, then defeated THAT false-argument. Since I wasnt twisting anyone else’s contention, strawman is not a vallid criticism.
For example if someone took Trump’s comments on illegal immigration, and twisted them to mean Trump is anti immigrant, then proved diversity and legal immigration is beneficial to America as proof Trump is wrong.
“Trump is a racist, this country will never elect a racist.”
“Cruz is a Canadian, this country will never elect a Canadian.”
“Richard uses strawman arguments, therefore I’m correct.”
That’s a strawman argument, twisting someone else’s words or creating a false narrative to create an argument you can win, then “defeating” that false-argument.
I may be premature in my prediction, Trump may implode, it takes more than money to win (just ask Steve Forbes and Perot.) but I did not intentionally employ sophistry to win an argument, I was merely trying to predict the future based on my honest observations of the present.
As a fan of Cruz, Paul, and Rubio I wouldn’t be disappointed with either, so you may be right, and that wouldn’t be a bad thing for me. I object to you saying I created a strawman though, to me that’s equivalent of calling me a liar or a deceiver. (I may be full of shit, but I’m not an intentional deceiver.)
Right now, the prevailing wisdom is Bush is unbeatable, Trump a sideshow- (look at the gambling lines on our election to see the odds on anyone but Jeb and Hillary.) I honestly believe Trump has a real shot at beating Jeb, but if Jeb wins, because the old-back-room-Republican-elite machinery shuts him down, I believe Tump runs as a third party candidate. (And might win.)
Not sure Trump’s ego would let him be vice-anything!
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