Twin Peaks Biker Files Objection: Waco PD Grand Jury Foreman has Conflict of Interest

Breitbart Texas ^ | July 14, 2015 | Lana Shadwick

[don-o]

Christopher J. Downey is a former Harris County prosecutor who worked in the Civil Rights Division of the Harris County District Attorney’s Office. The now criminal defense lawyer has both presented numerous shooting cases to grand juries, and defended police officers on shooting investigations. As a prosecutor he investigated whether any laws were broken or civil rights violations occurred during a police shooting. He is of counsel to a police union, the Coalition of Police and Sheriffs (C.O.P.S.). His job now is to go out on calls when a member shoots someone.

Downey told Breitbart Texas, “The role of any grand jury is to review the assertion of law enforcement that there is probable cause to justify prosecuting an individual. Grand jurors enjoy the unique privilege of total secrecy in their deliberations but in that unique privilege is the assumption that the grand jurors are unbiased.”

“Selecting a grand juror in any case who has prior knowledge of the facts of the case, or allowing a police officer to serve as foreman in a matter that involves allegations of police misconduct, invites unnecessary allegations of bias. It undermines the integrity of the system. To do so in this case, in a case with national attention, is patently absurd,” said Downey.

[Robert Teesdale]

Lets keep the focus right here on this statement for the moment.

Sure.

First I notice you've reduced your original 'nine dead' by state forces assertion to a 'majority' killed by state forces, which is a good start. It demonstrates an acknowledgment on your part that bikers killed bikers and it wasn't a police massacre.

No, it doesn't. A massacre was committed. Nine citizens of the United States are dead. There is no incontrovertible proof of who shot who at this point. Published autopsy reports that are available at this time are not without dubious findings (link).

So the question becomes who shot first, the police or the bikers?

I disagree. The question of who fired first does not satisfy the outrage and anger over massive violations by the State of nearly every Amendment with concomitant death and devastation.

I've read at least a half dozen separate eye witness accounts of the shootout and every single one of them supports the notion that bikers started shooting at each other first. Absent evidence to the contrary I have no reason to disbelieve them. Eyewitness accounts show at least four bikers were killed by other bikers.

Would that excuse violations of civil rights conducted after the heat of the moment or fog of war or confusion or battle or exigent circumstances?

[Robert Teesdale]

Turns out they were all members of the same 3% club who got caught up in police dragnet around Twin Peaks and then let go once it was determined who they were.

"3%" club"? Small Freudian slip there?

The Unarrested of Waco

[Boomer]

Excellent post Sir! You really nailed most the important points about this tragic event and treatment of American citizens.

I have TG blocked so I didn’t read his replies but I can imagine he is still as dense as a block of lead. He’s a liberal and we all know or at least suspect liberalism as being a mental disease. With TG there can be no doubt.

[hadaclueonce]

But you’re too age deprived? I remember the Dallas Times Herald.

[wardaddy]

Yep

I lived in a garage apt off turtle creek back when lower McKinney was houses and pre homo

1957-1960

My cousin was a Cowboy cheerleader for five years till this year

Getting married

I just passed thru last week

[Cboldt]

Another motion filed by Broden today, to recuse Peterson.

Lawyer Seeks Local Judge's Removal From Biker Cases - kwtx.com

Link to Recusal Motion

Peterson could not be reached for comment Wednesday afternoon.

[don-o]

I see that the motion is filed in JP Court. So the JP has to rule on recusing himself, Right?

[Cboldt]

Yes, that’s how the process starts. If Peterson denies the motion, then Broden appeals. That’s how Zimmerman got judge Lester removed from the case.

[mac_truck]

3% club?

That wasn't a typo and it was the reason I copied you in on the post.

-btw your link to the "truth" doesn't work...no surprise here.

[TexasGator]

” A massacre was committed. Nine citizens of the United States are dead. There is no incontrovertible proof of who shot who at this point. “

Several eyewitnesses have publicly stated that the bikers shot first.

[TexasGator]

“Scimitars Motorcycle Club member Matt Clendennen withdrew his federal civil right lawsuit against the city of Waco, McLennan County, Texas, arresting officer Manuel Chavez and McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna. “

[Cboldt]

"It certainly has nothing to do with the merits of the lawsuit," Broden said. "We just need to add defendants, which we will do at a later date."

Civil rights lawsuit dismissed against city, county; plaintiff plans to refile - WacoTrib.com - July 6, 2015

[Robert Teesdale]

That wasn't a typo and it was the reason I copied you in on the post.

I didn't think it was.

-btw your link to the "truth" doesn't work...no surprise here.

I apologize, you are correct. Here is a corrected link.

The Unarrested of Waco

[Robert Teesdale]

Several eyewitnesses have publicly stated that the bikers shot first.

Irrelevant. That does not justify mass scale civil rights violations, including deprivation of life.

[mac_truck]

Do you recognize this patch and do you know about the men who wear them?

Apparently neither does Don Davis.

[Robert Teesdale]

That is the patch of the In Country MC.

They state they are a 501c(9) tax exempt organization. I have no information on their club other than what is publicly available on their web site or as may be mentioned (correctly or not) in news dispatches.

I have no knowledge of their club business and have no opinion on their club or members.

[TexasGator]

“”We just need to add defendants, which we will do at a later date.””

So he didn’t know what he was doing?

[TexasGator]

You: ” A massacre was committed. Nine citizens of the United States are dead. There is no incontrovertible proof of who shot who at this point. “

Me: Several eyewitnesses have publicly stated that the bikers shot first.

You: Irrelevant.

Totally relevant.

[mac_truck]

Law enforcement is equipped with light infantry weapons - namely, select fire rifles as well as concussive explosives and other military gear including ballistic armor.

Good...you'll be pleased to know that the McClellan County Sheriff Parnell McNamara has just made a request for a couple of dozen AR15s for his department as well.

This request was made in the wake of an incident where a county man armed with an AR15 and shotgun was shooting into a woman's house.

Apparently the local MC was unavailable to help her.

[Robert Teesdale]

Totally relevant.

"To know that you do not ride is highest To not ride but think you know is flawed Only when one recognizes a club as a club can one be without fault The patch holders are without fault Because they recognize the fault as a fault That is why they are without fault."