The unbelievable reasons why the Pentagon wants soldiers disarmed on bases

American Thinker ^ | July 17, 2015 | By Newsmachete

[US Navy Vet]

Last year, radical Muslim Nidal Hasan murdered 13 unarmed American soldiers and wounded 30 others.

Thank you, George H.W. Bush!

Yesterday, radical Muslim Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez murdered four unarmed American soldiers.

Thank you, George H.W. Bush!

Yes, it former President Bush whom we must thank for this, for it was he who put into place a regulation stating that American soldiers off the frontlines, for the most part, must be unarmed. (Clinton perpetuated it, but Bush started it.) That makes them sitting ducks for a single radical Muslim with a gun, who can casually go and shoot one soldier at a time, knowing they can't fire back.

[Mr Rogers]

I started in 1983, and it was the policy then.

We have everyone armed when deployed to a combat zone, but there is no drinking in a combat zone.

[TYVets]

Every Marine is a rifleman. Even cooks. All go though boot camp and must qualify with at least a rifle.

But due to PC they are not armed. Rules or Rules of Engagement are getting members of the military needlessly killed after all the training they have had.

[PapaBear3625]

I believe they should be able to carry personal firearms but I have seen too many drunken sailors and Marines who have no business with a gun in their hands.

So treat them like some states do with CCW: you are not allowed to consume alcohol while armed.

Alternately, have it be the case that sergeants and above (who presumably have more maturity) can carry.

[Oldexpat]

So now, thanks to massive immigration we need to have troops armed in the US for “force protection”?
We need to sort out the muslim’s we have in the country. Many are law abiding and no threat, but many are also radical’s. We can tell the difference. Muslim’s know who they are and they have no place in the USA.

[TomGuy]

It is as ridiculous as presidents arming NG or military with rubber bullets while on duty in hot zones.

[GWBush: Abu Ghraib prison, NG on southern border.]

[RJS1950]

No, because they get drunk or irrational over some perceived slight and pull a weapon on whomever they see as the problem. They also get bored and do stupid things like playing quick draw, until one weapon accidentally fires.

Witnessed all of that in the early 70s when I lived in the barracks and fortunately nobody killed but some close calls. These were upstanding and dedicated Marines by day but when liberty and alcohol called some were less than intelligent.

I think they should be able to carry and to have access to automatic weapons in some situations and areas. I don’t think that it would have stopped the shooting out of the blue from a car at the recruiting station but it might have saved some lives at the training center. If nothing else, it might give the shooter some pause before trying. As far as access to grenades; NO, I knew too many who would not throw it correctly, personally witnessed one drop a grenade in the throwing pit and was saved by the instructor who was amazing fast in pulling him over the barrier.

[don-o]

you miss the salient point........ even if armed the Marines would have died the shots were fired from a car outside the building

No fatalities, I think, at the recruiting off ice. It was at the Reserve Center, where he crashed a gate, that the killing was done.

My question is why the troops there did not get a heads up he was coming at them?

[Sir Napsalot]

Read it elsewhere that Eisenhower didn't want the appearance of armed camp in DC.

[xp38]

The instructions regarding the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch come to mind.

[IYAS9YAS]

Israeli soldiers carrying, at all times.

Carrying expensive clubs, it looks like. Where are the magazines? Not a one of them appears to have any, nor do they appear to have pockets necessary to carry any.

[captain_dave]

"...In 1954 I stood sentry duty armed with a ‘03 Springfield. The piece was empty and the cartridge belt I wore had nothing in it..."

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I was in the Army between 1984 and 1990. Most soldiers stood guard duty with an empty rifle.

[riverdawg]

I spoke yesterday with a former co-worker (now retired) who served in the U.S. Army from 1965 to 1968. He said that nobody on base carried a weapon except the guards at the gate(s) and the duty officers at various buildings inside the gates. And the duty officers had to retrieve their weapon from a locked safe when going on duty and return it to the safe when they went off duty.

[lakeman]

If you are on duty you should be armed. As Sgt. of the Guard of the Ammo Dump at Camp Lejeune back in the early 80’s I was armed at all times on duty as well as my man.

[G Larry]

As long as we keep ILLEGALS out of our Military!

[Forward the Light Brigade]

We are at War Folks. Trump is right—Gun Free Zones are wrong. Lets make The White House a Gun Free Zone! See how long Obama would let that happen.

[US Navy Vet]

In 1991 I was stationed at NORAD/US Space Command/Cheyenne Mountain and had occasion to go through FT Carson, CO a number of times and they had NO GUARD/NO GATE(S) just “breaks” in the fence. The United States Army(it seems) always have been EXTREMEMY LAX in Security.

[MrB]

Guy walks in, thinks “I think I’ll stick up a different coffee shop”...

[riverdawg]

At many bases in recent years, gate MPs have been replaced by private security guards.

[BigCinBigD]

There should at least be a .45 in a safe at every office.

[US Navy Vet]

“There should at least be a .45 in a safe at every office.”, IN A SAFE! ALOTTA DAMN GOOD the DAMN thing does in a SAFE! Spoken by YET ANOTHER person with a PEACETIME MINDSET!