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Trumpism: The Ideology
Liberty.me -The Global Liberty Community - Beautiful Anarchy ^ | July 14, 2015 | Jeffrey Tucker

Posted on 07/18/2015 3:31:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: C. Edmund Wright

Reality is we, yes WE as in the USA, have given away the store to foreigners to benefit corp bottom lines, corrupt our politicians and bankrupt America and the dollar. Only real POS would say what we, yes WE ss in the USA, are doing now is sustainable or good for us, yes us as the USA. But again nobody is going to change any idea in that anti American noggin’ of yours, I post these things so others can see an opposing view to your gloBULL world views.


41 posted on 07/18/2015 5:40:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OH! There’s one of THOSE words again....”bourgeois.”

Any time you start to read any article that has words that clearly identify the intent of the subject by “one of those words...i.e. bourgeois, struggle etc” you can be absolutely sure that the article is written by a 1. Socialist, 2. A Marxist, 3. A Communist and 4. someone who lives in a special shell made of imaginary pixie dust.

When I read an article as soon as I see one of “those words” I stop wasting my time reading it.


42 posted on 07/18/2015 6:00:34 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: central_va

No, business is NOT done as “the USA” - it’s done by individuals, daily, making billions of buying selling hiring firing investing cashing in moving staying put decisions in liberty, as it suits them.

To trust one man, Donald Trump, to swoop in and suddenly replace millions of those individual decisions with his own decisions is just another type of big government statism. It’s close to what Putin and his 20 bazillionaire oligarchs in Russia are doing.....which is good for Putin and those select oligarchs but still screws their population just as badly as communism did.


43 posted on 07/18/2015 6:12:31 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: DH

you shouldn’t have stopped reading...after that crap you mentioned (and it is crap) - there were some nuggets of truth.


44 posted on 07/18/2015 6:13:09 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; central_va; Cringing Negativism Network

I will not vote for anyone who is not a nationalist.

Ignorance, resentment, and would-be despotism is optional.


45 posted on 07/18/2015 6:15:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: ballplayer
So I guess we are supposed to vote for the candidate that loves everyone

You're supposed to watch the videos "It's A Small World After All" and "I'd Like To Build the World a Home", feel guilty, and then vote for Bush or Clinton, based on what team colors your favorite news anchor, celebrity, or pastor wears.

46 posted on 07/18/2015 6:19:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: central_va; C. Edmund Wright

My sympathies... But we do live in a globalist world; politically, economically and socially. It started a few decades ago.

The nationalist sentiments still exist, across the world. Though practically they are of little consequence.

The USA is not ‘bankrupt’. But has led the way for globalism over the mentioned decades. It isn’t something that can be corrected in the next 8 yrs.


47 posted on 07/18/2015 6:30:09 AM PDT by odds
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To: DH

Bastille Day, July 14 - it’s still an annual celebration in France - distributing cakes, croissant, and alike. Such was the disdain of French Revolutionaries for Louis XVI & the bourgeoisie (middle-class); it brought in the French Republic.


48 posted on 07/18/2015 6:30:20 AM PDT by odds
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To: CalTexan
I like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin but neither can win...

Nobody from inside the system can beat the machine that was created to prevent another Reagan. That machine uses very sophisticated techniques to dominate a process that is functioning (until the Electoral College assembles in December) in a completely extraconstitutional way, choosing the "opponents" before anyone realizes what is happening.

We need a new paradigm.

Just as "Obama" believed, and then proved, that there were among non-voters a pile of votes for him, a true opposition candidate has to go out and find a bigger pile of non-voters.

Fortunately, they exist among non-urban white Democrats.

Either the Democrat will be elected in 2016, or he/she will be beaten by white, working class votes.

And I don't use "working class" in the modern, ironic meaning of "not working", I mean guys with menial jobs or recently unemployable, with kids, who are being crushed around here and everywhere else in white rural America.

49 posted on 07/18/2015 6:30:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Trump’s idea that America is one entity, one company, and that he’s going to be CEO of America and make sure we “win” - against the single entities of China, India, OPEC, etc.

America IS, or WAS, "one entity" and unless it becomes that again it will blow away and disappear.

50 posted on 07/18/2015 6:32:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: Jim Noble

I’d be embarrassed to have such a ridiculous and ignorant statement attached to my name.....you didn’t read much Adam Smith in school did you?


51 posted on 07/18/2015 6:34:45 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: odds
But we do live in a globalist world; politically, economically and socially. It started a few decades ago. The nationalist sentiments still exist, across the world. Though practically they are of little consequence.

The other side of that fantasy will involve crossing a river of blood.

For shame.

52 posted on 07/18/2015 6:35:22 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For the new world order types, nationalism is a very bad thing.

Love of country, admiration for your nation's history, heroes and achievements doesn't have a place in the collective.

Obviously, an American using the expression "American Exceptionalism" would be offensive in the extreme and anyone seeking high office and using such language has to be a modern Hitler or pick your favorite infamous nationalist dictator.

Okay...fine. If "American Exceptionalism" is new code-speak for "Master Race" and no longer allowed, then how about bringing back good old, helpful, humble "American Common Sense" and just letting the chips fall where they may?

For example, fixing the border and stopping the illegal invasion is just Common Sense.

Common Sense: An idea whose time has come.

Common Sense for America! Common Sense FTW!

53 posted on 07/18/2015 6:47:04 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: Jim Noble

Well, “The other side of that fantasy” is Isolationism.

To be sure, I’d say Trump should lead the way...


54 posted on 07/18/2015 6:47:38 AM PDT by odds
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I actually did read the whole article this time out of curiosity.


55 posted on 07/18/2015 6:48:09 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I’d be embarrassed to have such a ridiculous and ignorant statement attached to my name

You know, having read your book, I realize you are an intelligent guy with a lot of good insights, but I don't like to discuss politics (or much of anything else) with insults, so I will pass. Sorry we disagree.

56 posted on 07/18/2015 6:48:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: odds
Well, “The other side of that fantasy” is Isolationism

I prefer to call it nationalism, but, whatever. If it be isolationism, make the most of it.

57 posted on 07/18/2015 7:00:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: Jim Noble; odds; C. Edmund Wright

Many conseratives don’t understand the concept of being global.

Many conservatives confuse business and politics. They believe that a political global union is a goal of the evil ones. That goal is manifest in the form of business entities with far flung operations and evil intent.

It is that fundamental misunderstanding of business in general and international trade in particular that is their error. The companies both very large and very small have one primary motivating force: expand business, make money, make profits for the owners. There are lots and lots of very small American companies with significant international operations.

The world today is joined by instantaneous communications allowing companies spread literally around the globe to have their “girls” communicate on the most mundane of business operational tasks and move stuff and money from one place to another with relative ease. There is no evil political intent, just business. An e mail chain from the office work horses on three or four continents in multiple time zones gets the job done routinely.

The concept of manufacturing in America to create American jobs is a worthwhile concept except when Americans are not economically competitive to do the job at a profit. That has been the reality for some time now. How ever, all those far flung cubical bound war horses work together to produce a purchase and a sale with wonderous economic efficiency.

Lastly, America has tremendous export manufacturing volume. We don’t export paint brushes. That has been ceded to others. We do however export complex computer controlled stuff, automatic valves, pumps, large transformers, control systems and on and on. America is where the world comes for lots of good complex stuff.

It is not political, just business


58 posted on 07/18/2015 7:01:53 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: Jim Noble

I’m in favor of nationalism.
If there is a feasible model that can take the current globalism and move us away from it without hurting us even more, then great. But I’d like to see it in practice, not simply in rhetoric.


59 posted on 07/18/2015 7:05:46 AM PDT by odds
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To: Jim Noble; bert

Bert’s post to you is excellent. And thanks for your comments on the book.

BUT You know Jim, if I hadn’t been called a “traitor” for simply agreeing with conservative economics...If I hadn’t been called anti American.....etc...simply because I agree with Adam Smith and Friedman and Sowell and so on...I might not be ticked off.

But I have been called all of those things by protectionists - so turn about is fair play. They call me traitor, falsely, I claim they don’t know WTF they’re talking about...correctly.


60 posted on 07/18/2015 7:17:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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