[afraidfortherepublic]

[afraidfortherepublic]

Amnesty activists confront Scott Walker at campaign stop (Voces de Frontera)

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

[VanDeKoik]

What a bitch coward to hide behind a kid so you can get away with breaking the law.

The “crying” boy is more of a man.

[joshua c]

Separate the family?

What kind of parent would leave their children behind?

My kids go where I go.

[Toddsterpatriot]

One of the activists, Sam Freeman of Wisconsin’s Voces de la Frontera, cut the governor off and shouted, “So that’s why you want to separate their family?”

Separate the family? Hell no, the parent's native country should pay for their education.

[hosepipe]

Question : Why do you want to deport my daddy?

Answer: Because he’s an illegal insurgent... breaking american law.. and a mexican national.. if not guilty of some other crimes.. and you too might be deported as well.. and your mother grand parents and some of your friends..

NEXT!....

[Blood of Tyrants]

Your daddy broke the law and that is supposed to have consequences.

[Teacher317]

So if two parents commit a crime, or if one parent is in jail, then the other parent should NEVER be convicted of any crime, because of the child? Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. If your parenting skills are so terrible that you both break the laws and risk getting arrested, then YOU are to blame for your child becoming a ward of the state (or Mexico), not those who enforced the laws. Have a wonderful day, sir.

[DiogenesLamp]

who he said were all born in the United States….

We can thank William Rawle, and deliberately misinterpreting the 14th amendment for this Bullsh*t.

Under the correct and proper understanding of US Citizenship, just being born in this country isn't enough. You must be born here while you're parents owe no allegiance to another nation.

[Tennessee Nana]

PING

[BobL]

Surprising that Walker would stoop to the level of ERIC CANTOR in order to try to show he’s tough on Illegals (remember when Cantor had his friend, Gutierrez, was doing the same, just before Cantor lost his Primary).

...but then given Walker’s record on Amnesty being almost the same as Cantor, and Walker using the SAME ADVISER as Cantor (not sure if he’s gay), I can’t say I’m surprised...although one would think that given what happened to Cantor, Walker might want to try something else.

[RightGeek]

[Teacher317]

At the 2:55 mark the father has the child ask an obviously rehearsed question:
“Do you want me to come home, come from school and my dad gets reported?”

No, I want your father to follow the rules and laws, and not get arrested or deported. But if he does, it is not the fault of those who enforce the laws. It is your father's fault. You must ask him why he wants to risk being separated from you. I cannot answer that question.

[Boogieman]

“Separate the family”... what nonsense. When they are deported, the children are free to join them in Mexico, or wherever they are from. I find it hard to believe their native land wouldn’t accommodate them in that.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

One of the activists, Sam Freeman of Wisconsin’s Voces de la Frontera, cut the governor off and shouted, “So that’s why you want to separate their family?”

It's taken a couple of decades.. but almost there. The corrupt Mexican government wants to establish its control over its "citizens living abroad" (even if born in the U.S.) and no doubt likes the controversy described in the aritlce as it creates "victims" of the U.S.

prior to the 1980s

There were Mexican government efforts to

• attract and remind permanent U.S. residents of their Mexican heritage
• along with programs providing temporary workers for the U.S.

But nothing in the former like today.

1980s Legal immigration

Under President Salinas

• Mexican political parties undertook to bond with U.S. citizens of Mexican descent and
• Mexico re-established Mexican citizenship for the Americans;
• Mexico's dual citizenship advocates sought to augment votes.

Mexico's

• web of multitudinous consulates and
• Mexico's new program for Mexican communities abroad (Program for Mexican Communities Abroad, PCME)

became very active in the U.S.

By 1990 Mexican policy had

• accepted their citizens' permanent settlement in the U.S.,
• sought to reinforce its emigrants' homeland ties and,
• encourage their organizational development in the U.S.

1996 LA Times article

1990s legal immigration

Mexico wanted Mexican-Americans to

• help defend Mexican interests in the United States;

President Ernesto Zedillo (1990s) spoke to Mexican-American politicians telling them

• "You're Mexicans -- Mexicans who live north of the border" and
• urged them to help create an ethnic lobby with political influence similar to that of American Jews;
• as Mexican-Americans become more powerful they were to defend and
• advocate Mexican interests in the United States.

1995 NY Times article

1980s and Beyond Illegal immigration

The Immigration Control and Reform Act (IRCA) in 1986

• gave amnesty to almost three million mostly Mexican undocumented aliens;
• these millions became the "basis for a new era in Mexico’s relations with its diaspora"
• including a network of Mexican activist organizations in the United States.

Mexican Policy & Émigré Communities in the U.S.

And then there is the emergence of hometown philanthropic clubs that send multi-billions of dollars to Mexican communities saving all levels of the corrupt Mexican government from having to depart with a peso to help its citizens. A better term is

• "hometown associations";
• HTAs have been around a long time;
• some of the most famous HTAs were the German Nazi HTAs.

Meanwhile if that money remained in the hands of the ILLEGAL aliens (undocumented workers) would they need taxpayer support for food, housing, healthcare, education, and all other transfer payments that states and communities provide them?

IMO it's the way the corrupt government of Mexico "taxes" its citizens in its "Nation without borders."

So yes, undocumented workers do pay taxes.

More at these FR threads: Federations give Mexicans voices and Immigrant Mexican philanthropic groups turn toward politics

On to Prop 187 and today..

1994, Prop. 187 Approved in California [before the courts destroyed it with a lot of help from the Democrat Gov. Gray Davis]

Today's anti-U.S., anti-Trump rancor is exactly like the National Republican-Democrat coalition against California Prop 187 voters.

• Prop 187 passed 59 - 41 percent;
• the courts went to work for the National Republican-Democrat coalition and
• cancelled the 59-percent;
• Democrat Gov. Gray Davis killed off the 59-percent by refusing to pursue his -- as I understand it -- obligation of doing "for the people."

More from the study..

The Mexican government weighed in during the campaign for Prop 187 with Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari asserting that

• "Mexico affirms rejection of this xenophobic campaign, and
• will continue to act in defense of the labor and human rights of our migrant workers."

(Salinas knew that Mexico did not have the means to use economic sanctions against the US or California to protest the approval of Prop. 187.)

Ernesto Zedillo, who followed Salinas as Mexico's President eagerly weighed in and

• asserted during his November trip to Washington, DC that
• Mexico 'cannot object to legitimate enforcement of US laws,' but
• Mexico objects to 'enforcement [that] might lead to deprivation or violation of basic human rights.... [including] education and health care;'
• the Mexican government promised to contribute attorneys and funds to fight Proposition 187 in US courts.

Before leaving office President Salinas suggested a guestworker program and Governor Wilson announced his support for a program to import Mexican guestworkers.

But the incoming Zedillo Administration knew that

• Mexico could not afford to close the wide open "safety valve" on which several million of its citizens depend;
• Mexico [saw] no significant lessening of emigration pressures during the 1990s
• [IOW: Mexico needed to continue unloading millions of its citizens onto the U.S.]

The return of a guestworker program had little chance.

The 1994 Prop 187 passage got immediate action..

Leaders of several Central American countries [told] President Clinton that their economies must grow faster in order to stem the flow of illegal immigrants to the north. Central American leaders [began] an intensive lobbying effort to prevent the return of their citizens after the passage of Prop. 187 and the threat of not renewing temporary protected status for El Salvadorans.

Passage of Prop 187 was met with instant appeals. But it took years to get the initial federal court to act on the appeals.

In Nov. 1997: "Proposition 187, as drafted, is not constitutional on its face," Judge Mariana R. Pfaelzer declared.

A year later Gray Davis was elected and IIRC one of his first acts was to fly off to Mexico City and later let it be clear that he would NOT appeal Pfaelzer's decision. Gov. Wilson was committed to appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Is that why Pfaelzer took so long. IIRC the Wilson administration pressured her to act and filed an appeal in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Governor Davis worked out some kind of deal that killed Prop 187 and dropped the court actions.

So the Administration, the courts, the legislative branch saying "F-you Americans!" is nothing new..

the autoimmune disease of the body politic appeared decades ago.. it's just been found to be caused by unstable radicals occupying buildings on the Beltway campus and something called crony capitalism. Now on the cure to save the life of the United States of America.

[GOPJ]

Lots of drama queens, manipulations and liars on the left... odd how they’re never called on the carpet to apologize...

[edpc]

Why do you want to deport my daddy?

Because he's an illegal immigrant and by definition, breaking the law. Additionally, he's using a gross misinterpretation of post Civil War Constitutional Amendments and his children as props to get away with it.

[Chode]

kinda like the goathumpers hiding behind women and children while shooting at Israelis...

send them all south, adults and their spawn

[freedumb2003]

>>Why do you want to deport my daddy? tactic against Republicans.<<

“Son, your daddy is a criminal. What do we do with criminals?”

[rusty millet]

Broken families are often a consequence of breaking the law.

[Prince of Space]

Apparently, Sam Singleton-Freeman wants us to call him at 414-719-1373. Maybe we can ask him why he hates his fellow Americans so much that he wants to help destroy the American Dream by importing an unlimited amount of immigrants from a third-world country. He’s also hooked into the Catholic SJW scene, so I’m sure he thinks he’s got our Lord on his side.