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[KY] State forbids pastors calling homosexuality 'sinful'
WND ^ | 7/24/15 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 07/25/2015 12:36:05 PM PDT by markomalley

The state of Kentucky has begun imposing a religious test on volunteer pastor counselors in its youth division, insisting that they refrain from calling homosexuality “sinful” and dismissing those who cannot bend their religious faith to accommodate the state requirements.

The policy was uncovered by Liberty Counsel, which has sent a letter to Bob Hayter, commissioner of the Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice, demanding that the state religious test be dropped and that a dismissed counselor be reinstated.

“Liberty Counsel writes regarding the blatantly unconstitutional revocation of volunteer prison minister status of ordained Christian minister David Wells, who has provided voluntary spiritual counseling and mentorship to juvenile inmates under the control of the Department of Juvenile Justice. … This revocation was issued by Warren County Regional Juvenile Detention Center on the basis of the April 4, 2014, DJJ Policy 912, which mandates full DJJ support of homosexuality and transvestism.

“With no evidence of any violation of DJJ policy on Mr. Wells’ part, his volunteer status was revoked by the Warren RJDC superintendent because he could not sign a state-mandated statement that homosexuality was not ‘sinful,’ among other things,” the letter said.

The policy states that DJJ staff, volunteers and others “shall not imply or tell LGBTQI juveniles that they are abnormal, deviant, sinful or that they can or should change their sexual orientation or gender identity.”


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: homofascism; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; kentucky; libertycounsel; tyranny
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To: markomalley

It is begun.
Are you Christian?
If so, your suffering is beginning.
You will soon have to choose, publicly.


61 posted on 07/25/2015 1:31:15 PM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: TigersEye

’m a Buddhist not a Christian but I think this is worth shooting people over.

Don;t worry, this is going exactly where we all think it’s going...so...that’s coming too because I sure as hell ain’t laying down for it.


62 posted on 07/25/2015 1:31:56 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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To: TalBlack

The gun to get out is the gospel gun.

If Christians demonstrated for the truth that we all need healing in Christ and Christ furnishes it (i.e. we aren’t setting ourselves up as any particular holier than thou folk) then they’d soon get noticed.


63 posted on 07/25/2015 1:34:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mrsmel

I think you’re right. Homosexual “marriage” is a hammer that will be used to crush free exercise of religion. Regardless, I feel quite certain we Christians will do just fine.


64 posted on 07/25/2015 1:34:29 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: markomalley

That title is misleading. It suggests, out of context, that the state has told pastors they must not denounce homosexuality from the pulpit.

In reality, the state has just told them to tone it down when working inside government-funded institutions, not churches.

We can debate whether that’s right or wrong, but the headline writer did a bad job and leaves a wrong impression.


65 posted on 07/25/2015 1:36:08 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: TigersEye

We are in deep doodoo.


66 posted on 07/25/2015 1:37:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: markomalley

Fine. Just call it stupid. Cause it is.


67 posted on 07/25/2015 1:37:42 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: dfwgator

They do it here in Texas, too. First-hand experience.

You know why? Recidivism rate and inmate behavior both improve with religious instruction.


68 posted on 07/25/2015 1:38:23 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: CitizenUSA

I got tired of using the quotes around marriage in connection with sodomites, so I’m just calling it sodomite mirage now. That’s true enough, because there can be no such relationship as a sodomite “marriage”.


69 posted on 07/25/2015 1:38:56 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoughtyOne
It sure is

I would not blame any of those pastors that volunteer for the DJJ if they stopped donating their time over this. I can see some pastors that enjoy volunteering for the DJJ having to make a tough choice.

70 posted on 07/25/2015 1:39:15 PM PDT by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thanks. You probably live a lot closer than I do.

It had been my opinion that the state was more reserved on issues like this.

As their ruling indicates, not as much as I had thought. Your comments seem to verify that.


71 posted on 07/25/2015 1:39:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: GregoTX

I’m sure the nation of Islam will be happy to step up.

I agree that Christians should either stop their involvement, or challenge the state in court.

In this age and with our SCOTUS, it would probably be a waste of time.

This is what a Left of center SCOTUS achieves for our nation. It ain’t pretty, and we’re just getting started with the really really ugly.

I think churches are months from serious government pressure and outright persecution.


72 posted on 07/25/2015 1:42:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: GregoTX

I think this is a testing time. This may be one of the most important issues that Christians have to confront to be right with God in end times.


73 posted on 07/25/2015 1:43:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: markomalley
Someone mind telling us what the heck is going on down there in Kentucky? I always thought of Kentucky as a conservative bastion, but the more I read about the state the more I'm convinced that it is more in the image of it's senior senator McConnell, "Conservative in Name Only."

??????

74 posted on 07/25/2015 1:44:08 PM PDT by ducttape45 (My USA is now dead.)
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To: markomalley

government can’t so order. Constitution. this is USA, still.
hopefully still USA, anyway.
we have 19 months to survive yet...
pray for America!

ps: pastors, priests, rabbis need to be welcoming and ‘pastoral’ (sensitive, caring, etc)
....they just cannot be ordered by government to rewrite the Bible or to preach ‘another gospel’ is all


75 posted on 07/25/2015 1:49:58 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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To: markomalley
I remember preaching (literally) against Christians voting for Clinton/Gore, and got chastised because members of the congregation applauded "separation of church and state" even though they didn't know what it meant.

Now, these liberal pigs they elected, all of them, are moving in the direction of attempting to erase the absolute nature of Christianity. You can't serve two masters. It just doesn't work.

76 posted on 07/25/2015 1:50:30 PM PDT by LouAvul (Venal and evil people are destroying the world you live in.)
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To: Vaquero
How can the state argue with the following syllogism:

1) Sin is any want of conformity or transgression of the law of God.

2)The law of God forbids any human sexual activity that is not between a man and woman who are married to each other.

Conclusion: Fornication, adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, and incest are all sins.

77 posted on 07/25/2015 1:54:01 PM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: Jedidah

Modern secular strictures make this a trickier proposition to carry out than it used to be.

Still the gospel can be heard.


78 posted on 07/25/2015 1:58:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: markomalley

Right. Because we know how important homosexual behavior is to our correctional system.


79 posted on 07/25/2015 2:01:32 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: markomalley

FU KY, it is SINFUL!!!

Sinful as HELL on a Hot night!!!


80 posted on 07/25/2015 2:01:33 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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