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Windows 10 Automatic Updates Start Causing Problems
Forbes ^ | July 25, 2015 | Gordon Kelly

Posted on 07/26/2015 7:55:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

Last week Microsoft MSFT confirmed every Windows 10 update will mandatory and installed automatically. This was met with a hostile reception from Forbes readers with over 100 comments on my news article voicing their concern. And now some of those fears have been realised…

With just four days left before launch, Windows 10’s policy of automatic updates has run into its first major problem and it is causing many PCs to stop working correctly.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: Swordmaker

By the way, my I-ti friend owns a I-phone and more than one watch...

Said he gave the watches away and started looking for a opportunity to short it.

and he did...

Frankly speaking, the risk he took was too great for me to follow that trade..


61 posted on 07/27/2015 8:57:33 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Birdsbane
I've used update automated troubleshooter, diagnostic cab, ms fixit. error code 80073712 - the solution is run windows repair from install disk but then it tells me puter system newer than disk so aborting. I called ms and have to call them back so they can fix it.

Thanks for your reply.

62 posted on 07/27/2015 9:05:20 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Swordmaker
However the put options could not be exercised that quickly.

Just saw this...lol

He's a pro, he uses Bloomberg Terminal.

If you don't use it as well, then you don't know what you are talking about.

63 posted on 07/27/2015 9:13:25 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Abby4116

When I updated to win 7, they made the online package available for a number of years..To back myself up, I saved a copy of it.

I don’t know how they will do this one. If I recall the win 8 beta was a similar setup..

I have not yet received my win 10 update so I am reluctant to guess what the procedure is.


64 posted on 07/27/2015 9:17:54 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: chris37

There’s always going to be some sort of rollup. They might not call it service packs, but a year from now they know that trying to put a fresh install to current would take days of individual installs so there will be a rollup, or even 2 by then.


65 posted on 07/27/2015 9:23:14 AM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: Enlightened1

Nope. There’s a free update to 10 Home available to you, and the boot strapper for the update is very difficult to avoid, but if you ignore it you’ll stay on 7.


66 posted on 07/27/2015 9:25:03 AM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: Timber Rattler

From https://www.thurrott.com/

67 posted on 07/27/2015 10:51:02 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: Cold Heat
I stil don't believe you because the only ones who could have made anything were after hours traders, not "day traders," who have to use the NASDAQ. Sorry, what you claim is just not believable. When the markets opened after the Financial Call the next day, it only went up. . .

It doesn't matter that he used the real time Bloomberg Terminal or not. As required by law, the data about Apple's Financials was only released after market close at above $130, and those Financials were STILL better than Apple's own guidance by a considerable amount and better than what the Street was expecting it to be that very morning.

However, at exactly when the bell rang, before the data were released, Yahoo Finance and several other Main Stream Media outlets, as soon as the markets closed had headlines prepared and published on the Internet that Apple's 3rd quarter was "disappointing," and Falsely claimed that Apple had MISSED the street's earnings expectations (completely false) andCLAIMED themissed expectations were several BILLION DOLLARS HIGHER than the one they had published just ten hours earlier as the Street's "Whisper Numbers!" and which are always considerably higher than the regular number than the Street's consensus earnings number. Apple exceeded by 33% their previous 3rd quarter sales and earnings record from last year. . . and that was "disappointing"?

The pre-announcement articles even included a paragraph that Apple's guidance for the next quarter failed to "exceed" the expectations of the "street," yet Apple's guidance was only $130 million (0.25%) lower than the highest range of the Street's average analysts' expectations. Absurd to claim that a miss, especially when Apple is known to always be conservative on such prognistication. Remember, this is based on what anal-cysts predicted Apple would guide. Navel gazing with no evidence, compounded by an agenda to suppress the stock.

68 posted on 07/27/2015 11:45:52 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
stil don't believe you because the only ones who could have made anything were after hours traders, not "day traders,"

Ha!

LOL

You stuck your foot in it again...Day traders don't just trade during the day....lol....Bwahahahaha

And I all ready told you that he anticipated the drop in price and was positioned before the release when Apple butt boys were still vapid about the results and were bidding it higher as per usual..

BTW, Bloomberg terminal is a high speed service. It's very expensive and only a choice number of traders use it. It's not just a real time service,,But again, you would not know that.

I'm only pointing out that like most idiots with opinions on everything they don't have any expertise in, you continue to shoot yourself in the foot, time and time again.

69 posted on 07/27/2015 11:53:38 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Swordmaker
However, at exactly when the bell rang, before the data were released, Yahoo Finance and several other Main Stream Media outlets, as soon as the markets closed had headlines prepared and published on the Internet that Apple's 3rd quarter was "disappointing," and Falsely claimed that Apple had MISSED the street's earnings expectations (completely false) andCLAIMED themissed expectations were several BILLION DOLLARS HIGHER than the one they had published just ten hours earlier as the Street's "Whisper Numbers!" and which are always considerably higher than the regular number than the Street's consensus earnings number. Apple exceeded by 33% their previous 3rd quarter sales and earnings record from last year. . . and that was "disappointing"?

All this is meaningless drivel to a contrarian options trader. But you would not know that either..

70 posted on 07/27/2015 11:55:48 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat

BTW, Yahoo finance is well known by traders to be the go to source for losers...


71 posted on 07/27/2015 11:56:48 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: topspinr
Fortunately, l don’t use Internet Explorer.

Internet Explorer seems to have disappeared from my Windows 10 machine. Two or three of the builds had IE and "Project Spartan" ... the latest build has "Edge". It's a nice browser. I'm running it side-by-side with Firefox, and have no complaints about either. It does a good job with the live weather page at http://www.weather.gov/pbz/

72 posted on 07/27/2015 11:58:05 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: NorthMountain

yeah....Microsoft tossed IE....


73 posted on 07/27/2015 12:04:13 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: NorthMountain; Cold Heat

NO! IE is still there but you have to look for it.

Windows weekly on This Week In Tech has covered this extensively.

Leo Laport, Mary Jo Foley and Paul Thurrott do a podcast Wednesday nights. You might recall the old G4 TV channel The Screensavers. When that went down Leo formed his own company that pretty much the same thing. twit.tv. It’s a great source of tech info.


74 posted on 07/27/2015 12:32:14 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: prisoner6
NO! IE is still there but you have to look for it.

OK, it didn't disappear, it went into hiding.

Spartan/Edge is front and center. I think it's faster and a bit more stable. IE would lock up occasionally on that NOAA live weather site.

75 posted on 07/27/2015 12:35:26 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: prisoner6

Not having a copy of 10 yet, I was going by some tech blogs stating it in the same way I put it. One can assume they kept it for some reason...perhaps for enterprise customers and those with IE based whatevers...apps etc..

But it seems clear to me that the intent is to totally replace it, due to it’s gross weight, with a new lighter, faster build.


76 posted on 07/27/2015 12:41:04 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: NorthMountain

FWIW to me Edge looks lean and mean...a nice browser. I rarely use IE. Win10 seems great so far but waiting until the 29th or a few days after the general release to decide.

BTW Paul and Mary Jo seemed to be saying that while the release is on the 29th everyone might not get it at that date.

Mrs p6 and I are insiders...wooo...and have been getting beta releases but also get components pushed to our machines. So far no major problems but we aren’t gamers, lol.


77 posted on 07/27/2015 12:46:31 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: Cold Heat

Yup. enterprise, business, legacy users. Eventually it WILL go away, probably just wither and die on it’s own.


78 posted on 07/27/2015 12:49:46 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: prisoner6

Good to know....that is pretty much what I have been hearing, with the exception of the usual anti-windows whine and cheese eaters..(which pretty much encapsulates the tech blog universe)


79 posted on 07/27/2015 12:56:44 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Cold Heat
I don't think you even know how "options" are exercised and when and how the strike dates work. . . and they become worthless if the strike prices are not hit by the strike dates.

Before then, the cost of the options is quite a bit lower than the value of the stock itself. . . and you won't make much money on them, regardless of what they stock does. Major announcements like the Apple Financial Call are timed to be between strike dates so as not to affect the values of options. I just don't see it.

The Apple options have always turned out to be worthless because the manipulators make sure the stock is at the strike prices of the options can't be exercised and the options become worthless. You can watch it happen in real time. Perhaps he found some suckers to buy some, but not afterhours. I think you are pulling stuff out of your navel as well. The number of shares that traded hands after hours were minuscule compared to the shares that trade during normal hours but have an outsized effect because they still have to be reported.

These small lots are sometimes traded at artificially low prices purely for the affect they will have on the market in the morning because they ARE essentially private trades and can be made outside of the market. If that manipulation can be proven, someone may go to prison. These deliberately false articles give them plausible deniability.

The Securities and Exchange Commission has been remiss in not investigating the numerous examples of the manipulation of AAPL over the past years, despite numerous instances of such "disappointing headlines" on record breaking quarters resulting in the stock going down artificially and the same persons profiting by selling stock and buying back in after the panic selling.

He’s a pretty good day trader. Uses options, called this days before the call, and shorted some 2500 contracts. he really did quite well.. Took a nice long vacation.

There's another reason I really don't believe you, Cold Heat. "Took a nice long vacation." LOL! Cold Heat, the Apple Financial Call and the release of the 3rd Financial 2015 Quarter data happened at 5PM on Tuesday of last week and you claim your friend "took a LONG vacation" since then? Sure, right! And you ask us to believe you aren't making all of this up out of whole cloth. You keep adding details that just make your story a "story" that doesn't hold water.

Take a look at the AAPL call and puts options contracts that struck on Friday July 24, 2015. Not a single one of them paid a single dime. . . In fact, as of that date, the value of those call and put options was less than 1¢. OOPS!

Perhaps your friend bought July 31st options which still have trading value. . . but then he couldn't have gone on your claimed "long vacation" on the proceeds. Double OOPS! Do you see why I simply don't believe what you are claiming?

By the way, if he is just trading options, swing changes in options are on the order of 0.01 to 1.55 per option . . . there's not a big killing to be made there even if you sell 2500 contracts. Proceeds might fund a weekend in Los Vegas for two. . . or a bus trip to Fresno, at the low end. i DO know what this is about. . . the big money is hitting it with a big swing in the stock value that continues to the strike date. That doesn't happen. . . and didn't happen.

Try knowing what YOU are talking about before you post blather to people who DO know what they are talking about. The only foot in anything is yours.

80 posted on 07/27/2015 1:18:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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