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Missing teens likely encountered wind, storms from sea
Palm beach post ^ | Jorge Milian and Kimberly Miller

Posted on 07/28/2015 5:06:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga

As Jim Dulin struggled mightily to steer his 30-foot fishing boat away from an ugly storm and into the Jupiter Inlet early Friday afternoon, he was startled to see a small boat heading the opposite direction into the rough weather.

Among the dozens of vessels in the water, Dulin said the small boat carrying two young males was the only one not racing toward the safety of the inlet.

Manager: I was last to see missing Jupiter teens photo

“I said to myself, ‘Those kids are crazy,’” said Dulin, a Jupiter resident and commercial fisherman for 20 years. “There’s no way they couldn’t see that storm. The storm was really black, the temperature dropped and you could tell it was going to be a really mean one.”

Although Dulin couldn’t be positive, he said it’s likely the passengers on the small boat were Austin Stephanos and Perry Cohen, the Jupiter 14-year-olds who have been missing since they took off on their 19-foot boat from the Jupiter Inlet.

The boys’ capsized vessel was found Sunday just south of Daytona Beach. Coast Guard crews predict, based on currents, that the boys are north of the capsized boat, and plan to focus search efforts on that area.

Friday’s storm began in the early afternoon and forecasters were watching the radar, preparing an alert to warn mariners of bad weather boiling to the north and west.

The storm first smacked Stuart with a 38 mph gust recorded at 1:07 p.m. before rolling through Hobe Sound and stalking into Jupiter.

While the moments leading to the teens’ disappearance are a mystery, the National Weather Service issued a special marine statement about the line of expanding thunderstorms at 1:41 p.m.

Ninety-four minutes later, the alert was heightened to a warning — a signal that wind gusts were topping 38 mph and boaters “should seek safe harbor immediately.”

“It looks to me like they probably encountered these thunderstorms,” said David Zierdan, state climatologist for the Florida Climate Center in Tallahassee. “Other than the thunderstorms, the weather conditions were pretty benign.”

It’s the kind of weather South Florida summers are known for. Afternoon storms kick up quickly with the west winds, turning friendly seas dangerous in moments.

“Had they been out over the open water, they could have had some rapidly changing conditions,” said John Pendergrast, senior meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Melbourne, about the two 14-year-olds who have been missing since Friday. “It’s too hard to say whether weather directly could have caused whatever it is that happened to them, but there were some localized wind gusts and precipitation.”

Searchers were still looking for the teens late Monday, following a crude road map provided by Mother Nature in the Gulf Stream, winds and currents.

Searchers discovered the teens’ capsized boat Sunday more than 60 miles off the coast of Daytona Beach, sucked 170 miles north by the powerful current of water that parallels Florida’s coast.

The area of the find was no surprise to Dmitry Dukhovski, an associate scientist of physical oceanography for Florida State University.

He said the Gulf Stream accelerates as it is squeezed through a channel created between the Bahamas and the Florida coast. The pace picks up to about 3-and-half mph and stays swift until it reaches Daytona Beach.

“They should be in the Gulf Stream,” Dukhovski said about the teens. “They probably wouldn’t even know they were caught in it because in the ocean, you can’t feel the motion.”

“You cannot swim against it,” he added.

If Dukhovski wasn’t surprised by the boat’s location, United States Coast Guard Petty Officer and public affairs specialist Mark Barney said it was alarming to find it so far north.

Judging by the boat’s location, the search area Monday was moved to about 60 miles east of Jacksonville and north to Fernandina Beach, Barney said.

“We’re on day three and a half, going on four, and we’re all the way on the border with Georgia,” Barney said. “It’s very scary.”

But not hopeless, said Christine Van Dillen, assistant professor of emergency medicine at the University of Florida.

“I definitely think they should continue the rescue and search, especially if they had some sort of equipment that could keep them above the water,” Van Dillen said.

Coast guard officials said Monday they believe the boys may have fashioned a raft with a cooler, life jackets and an engine cover.

Still, just because Gulf Stream water temperatures are in the low 80s, doesn’t mean the teens are safe from hypothermia.

Van Dillen said body temperatures will start to lower when someone is submerged in even 80-degree water. Once it dips to 93 degrees — the normal temperature is 98.6 — organs start to shut down.

“There is still hope,” Van Dillen said. “I hate to give false hope, but there are also people who are young and fit and will pull through.


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To: momtothree

Licenses are quite a bit above their level and age. There are, however, are large number of Coast Guard and state training classes and certificates. Don’t know the lower age limits for the classes, but at 14 they would be old enough for them. Common with boating families, even in places like Minnesota on big freshwater lakes.


41 posted on 07/28/2015 6:31:29 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TexasGator

“Besides, what are you going to do? Chase the boat for miles and end up in the middle of the storm?”

If the captain decided to intervene he could have signaled them with spotlight and/or hailed them on VHF channel 16. Yet he makes no mention of doing either. Therefore he made no attempt to intervene.


42 posted on 07/28/2015 6:37:56 AM PDT by Justa
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To: TexasGator

He wasn’t given command of a ship simply because of PC. At 12 years old, David Farragut was competent on the sea.


43 posted on 07/28/2015 6:43:30 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: from occupied ga
Here's the inlet this morning.


44 posted on 07/28/2015 6:47:39 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: Theo

“He wasn’t given command of a ship simply because of PC. At 12 years old, David Farragut was competent on the sea.”

His ‘daddy’ gave him command of a captured ship.


45 posted on 07/28/2015 6:49:52 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: FlJoePa

Really nice picture, but I don’t trust the Jupiter inlet. I use the Palm Beach inlet, and other than avoiding the drunks that seem to crop up around peanut island, I’ve never had any problems.


46 posted on 07/28/2015 6:52:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Crim
I never said they were doomed. My comment speaks to the boy's decision making skills the parent's placed their confidence in. I've been through that inlet, as well as others up and down the coast. When you see the boats coming in, none going out and a black sky in front of you, you don't need to head out to open water to know you should turn around. Consider this quote from the commercial fisherman who struggled to get his 30’ commercial F/V through the inlet ahead of the storm that was visible to all out there that afternoon, “I said to myself, ‘Those kids are crazy,’ ” said the Jupiter resident and commercial fisherman for 20 years.
47 posted on 07/28/2015 6:53:53 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: from occupied ga

Stay out the Sharks house......


48 posted on 07/28/2015 6:59:32 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: martinidon

We’re actually working on the island right now. A few houses up from Norman’s and next to Nick Price. Norman’s house has always been my favorite on the island. Very cool property.


49 posted on 07/28/2015 7:11:23 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Red sky in morning, sailors take warning?


50 posted on 07/28/2015 7:57:54 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

YOu don’t need a license to boat. Kids have been boating as long as there has been water. No only goes so far.


51 posted on 07/28/2015 4:23:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: from occupied ga

Chatter from USCG of a possible sighting off Tybee Island in GA. Let’s hope so.


52 posted on 07/28/2015 6:09:09 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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Lots of reports of hearing many helicopters off Hilton Head and Tybee Islands.


53 posted on 07/28/2015 6:27:33 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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Per Jax Marine Scanner - possible person(s) in the water 46 nautical miles east of Tybee Island, GA


54 posted on 07/28/2015 6:38:55 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: TexasGator

What you said and more. At 30mph rain feels like bullets hitting your face. In a bad thunderstorm visibility will fall to 100 yards and the lightning will make you soil your shorts.

If the witness captain was in an open boat with no diving mask to wear to protect his eyes there’s no way he could follow anyone.


55 posted on 07/28/2015 7:13:29 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( NASCAR 2015: "Bootlegger to boot licker"--FReeper Crim)
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To: FlJoePa

HAve you heard anything since?


56 posted on 07/28/2015 8:02:35 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (MY COUNTRY WAS OF THEE!!!!)
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To: sweetiepiezer

Listening to USCG feed. A ponpon is out with coordinates for possible person in the water off Tybee,Ga. Not sure if this is related to the missing boys.


57 posted on 07/28/2015 8:06:12 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Please keep us updated.


58 posted on 07/28/2015 9:55:41 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (MY COUNTRY WAS OF THEE!!!!)
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To: sweetiepiezer
Not confirmed. Hope it isn't a hoax.


59 posted on 07/29/2015 11:30:46 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

I don’t pray often, but I’m praying now it’s true.


60 posted on 07/29/2015 11:32:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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