Posted on 07/28/2015 5:06:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga
I’m surprised they haven’t brought up the “Bermuda Triangle” nonsense.
Most ships and planes that disappeared in the Triangle were actually outside the triangle.
Yes I heard the survival window was around 5 days at that sea temp......some people have survived longer...I still hope they are found ok.
Sadly I think you've hit on the most probable scenario.
Yup, in salt water you are either having lunch or you are lunch.
Yes, and 99% of the time (fortunately) there are no serious consequences, but when you add a small boat and a large ocean bad judgment can be fatal, and I suspect that in this case it was.
“... and one can control this issue with a long rope, right?”
No. However, who allowed them to get the license? Who allowed them to purchase a boat? Who said it was okay to go out? My point is I am equating driving to boating... and yes, the parents have the control over them until they are 18. If one of my kids is not yet mature enough for driving.. then it will wait. When my oldest got his license, you can bet that there were restrictions placed ON HIM by US. Violate the curfew, get a ticket, or go somewhere where we didn’t approve beforehand and he lost his license. We clearly set out parameters. We clearly set out punishment guidelines before any shenanigans were even presented in his little teen mind. I feel sorry for the parents of these boys.. I truly do. I feel sorry for the parents up the street from us who knew their teen drank at parties and still allowed him to take his car to a party (where he subsequently smashed into a tree at 2 a.m.) Parenting isn’t easy.. it involves a lot of the word NO. It involves setting limits and being the “bad guy”.
The strength of the Gulf Stream could easily separate a boat and a swimmer as the have different exposure to currents below the surface. The current is so swift you could not swim against it to reach your boat if you get even a few yards apart. Swimming with a life jacket on is even harder.
The Jupiter to Vero beach area of Florida has one of the highest incidences of shark attacks on swimmers in the world.
From what I understand the boys were not cleared by their parents to go to the Bahamas or anywhere far from shore but the decisions were left to the kids. No Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) with them is a big red flag for parental oversight.
The captain cited in the article is wise to say he could not tell if they were kids when he saw them going into the storm. On the ocean you ARE your brothers’ keeper. The captain would be expected to intervene on their behalf if their judgment was in question -as it would be with youthful or inexperienced boaters. If he ID-d them as kids he is remiss in his obligations as a captain.
There is a reason fore decks were invented though the Vikings seem to have done well.
UNLESS you would endanger yourself by so doing.
No PLBs and apparently there wasn't any EPIRB on the boat either.
“No. However, who allowed them to get the license? “
What license?
12-year-olds can do amazing things.
Consider the man who became the first admiral of the US Navy, David Farragut ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Farragut ).
When he was 9 years old he was commissioned a midshipman in the US Navy, and at 12 years old he was given charge over his first ship. He wasn’t given these responsibilities for politically correct reasons, but because he had the necessary skills and ability to carry them out.
12-year-olds can do amazing things.
Here’s a more modern example: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/youtube-sensation-cj-pearson-switches-endorsement-from-rand-paul-to-ted-cruz/article/2569060
” The captain would be expected to intervene on their behalf if their judgment was in question “
He was near the inlet. Even trying to turn around might endanger his safety.
Besides, what are you going to do? Chase the boat for miles and end up in the middle of the storm?
Wasn’t there some sort of boating license they obtained? Or, perhaps I read that from previous threads/article on this case. If I am wrong... oops. If the boat was their parents boat.. did they steal the key? From the articles I have read, one parent kept discussing that they were experienced. Thus, permission to go out on the water must have been given at some point.
“He wasn’t given these responsibilities for politically correct reasons, but because he had the necessary skills and ability to carry them out.”
“Through the influence of his adoptive father”
“Wasn’t there some sort of boating license they obtained? Or, perhaps I read that from previous threads/article on this case. If I am wrong... oops. If the boat was their parents boat.. did they steal the key? From the articles I have read, one parent kept discussing that they were experienced. Thus, permission to go out on the water must have been given at some point.”
There is no boating license in Florida. If you were born after 1988 you have to take an on-line safety course.
I am guessing the kids pretty much had run of the water and didn’t need specific permission.
All too true look at the video taken at the Jupiter inlet in post #10 This was with NO storm approaching. Jupiter inlet is not a place to mess around.
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