Posted on 07/29/2015 12:24:33 PM PDT by GoneSalt
Wait. Doesn’t a threat like this make them a domestic terrorist organization? And also a RICO case? Where’s the DoJ?
Oh, the DoJ is too busy investigating anyone who would expose the crimes of Planned Parenthood. Never mind.
“Hunting is a coward’s pastime,” said PETA President Ingrid Newkirk...
Perhaps someday she should go into the bush and pursue a tiger or a grizzly.
If, as a result, she returns alive with only soiled shorts to show for her efforts, she can consider herself VERY lucky.
Spoken like someone who has no real understanding of the nature of hunting - in Africa or anywhere else. Although I suspect you’re already in the “I’ve made up my mind, don’t confuse me with facts” camp, I’ll take a shot...
While there are undoubtedly a few miscreants around that derive pleasure from what you refer to as sport hunting, the vast majority of sport hunters do not derive pleasure or “fun” from killing anything. Those of us who hunt honorably and in accordance with the law would be a lot tougher on poachers than most state laws permit today.
Hunters from the United States, Europe and elsewhere pay a great deal of money to hunt in Africa. To hunt the “Big Five” (elephants, lions, cape buffalo, leopards and rhinos - where legal), hunters pay enormous sums of money and, in many cases, are only able to bring back a small portion of the game they kill. The fees that they pay the government and PHs (professional hunters) pay for game wardens that enforce game laws, wildlife management, trackers, cooks, gun bearers and other local employees. Furthermore, much of the meat from those animals feeds local populations that, in many cases, are badly undernourished. Other animal parts are used to make crafts that natives sell in markets throughout Africa.
Kenya is a perfect example of the abject stupidity of hunting bans. Kenya’s hunting ban has been in effect since 1977. At that time, Kenya’s elephant population was estimated at 167,000 to 250,000 animals. Since then, in the absence of any LEGAL hunting, Kenya’s elephant population has been in freefall and is estimated at less than 20,000, due primarily to unrestricted poaching and sale of ivory and other elephant parts. Generally poor countries do not place wildlife management at the top of their priorities and the loss of revenue from legal sport hunting led to the loss of game wardens and a violent increase in poaching.
Populations of other animals have seen a similar decline. While the ban on hunting was applauded by the anti-hunting crowd, many of us in the hunting community refer to situations like Kenya’s as “Loving animals to extinction”.
“Just realize that there are a lot of guys who go into bow hunting because it takes more work and skill and dedication than picking up a gun once a year on opening morning.”
And there are a lot of hacks.
nobody said that
Why can’t we grieve the death of a beautiful lion - FOR HIS HEAD - without being condemned because of Planned Parenthood.
BOTH are wrong. Both are horrible.
that dentist should pay - heavily... for his crime.
And so should the b@stards at PP
Sorry, but we need 5 more well fed families in Africa, like I need a spare .... finish that sentence any way you want.
sorry, the more you have of anything, the less value is attached to same. Econ 101
People are not deserving of my pity or charity. That poor beast was one of a dying breed. The dentist will pay dearly for this
NO - how did this evil trophy kill become a duel over which is worse.
I am horrified at the trophy hunt of that lion.
That doesn’t mean I want PP to sell baby parts.
What is wrong with you?
Excellent point! I recently had a conversation with a councilman from a small city in Ohio. He related that the areas inside the city limits were overrun with deer, that insurance rates were on the rise due to accidents involving deer and that deer were devastating gardens and landscaping. He went on to tell me that the city council was considering hiring (paying) a “professional hunter” to exterminate a number of deer.
I was a bit incredulous, so I asked him, “Does (name of city) have a budget surplus?” When he replied “Not hardly”, I said, “Why don’t you use it as an opportunity to make money AND lower/control the deer population?” I went on to explain to him that the city could offer tags - at a cost - through the police department. The city could identify areas in which hunting (bowhunting - it’s a pretty urbanized area) was legal. They could require a bowhunter proficiency test to minimize the likelihood of accidents and wounding and require hunters to “earn a buck” by killing a requisite number of does before shooting a buck, thus lowering the population and, by offering a buck tag, incentivize hunters to shoot does. They would have drawings to assign hunters to certain areas every morning and check hunters and their animals in and out of one or more police-operated check stations every day. If a hunter failed to check out, he would be prevented from hunting within the city limits in the future.
Not sure what the city ended up doing, but the councilman was pretty intrigued by the idea, which has been done successfully in a number of areas.
Econ 101. The more you have of anything, the less value is attached to same.
That goes for people, water, air, and lions.
No, it’s not fair, or Christian... but it’s the reality.
Combine econ 101 with burgeoning populations in places where there is rhino horn... and the sympathies will not be with the Unicef posters.
Combine econ 101 with Hamilton’s Rule - and you have the makings of a worldwide race war over diminishing resources and the relative value of races and ethnicities of peoples.
Hamilton’s Rule - I am hardwired for 10,000 years to care for and about those who look and act like me. Out of necessity!
A hundred years of multi cultural pap hasn’t changed our hard wiring... but our politics. Don’t ask people on a public poll what is more important to them - African livelihood, or Lions, Giraffes, Gazelles. They will lie.
Hell, I would wager a months pay that even lowly coyote will muster more sympathy than Kikuyu or Masai.
I’ve been there. So have Dr.s without Borders... ask them if penicillin was put to good use on that continent.
this is a conversation that makes people squirm. But it has to be had. If only of the privacy of our homes. And it’s going to get much much worse. fingers in our ears - and complaints to the mods that I’m tiptoeing into quicksand only puts off the discussion.
The mind of a lib is a sick-twisted mess.
What do you have against People for Eating Tasty Animals?
Again, you are entitled to your opinion.
There’s a fella ChapStick who wrote a few safari books, and one story that stands out in my memory was when they asked him to come put down a wounded elephant that had been shot up with an AK and he asked what damn fool did that. Turned out a lady big in the animal rights game paid a guide to show her elephants, and when he did, she got right out of the truck and headed towards them with her arms outstretched, “Poor brother Elephant, I come to you with vibrations of love and an aura of peace...”. and brother Elephant crushed her into jelly and was busy stirring that jelly into the dirt with his tusks when the hapless guide just blasted away with his AK. So brother Elephant then had to wait for the evil safari hunter to ease his suffering.
The dentist already paid to cull a dangerous pet too old and weak to hunt.
There are many lions. Lions reproduce quickly. Who really cares about a lion? Probably people who cry when a tree is cut down. People watch too many Disney movies.
Is Peta for or against planned parenthood??
Funny story.
Presume you’re referring to the late Peter Capstick.
Yeah. Someone lent me several books of his once upon a time and I devoured them. If you ever take kids camping and need a scary story, there’s one about the maneating leopard that took the skinner’s son while he was showing him the fine points of cleaning flesh from a hide. By a roaring fire, a dozen people standing around. He said “are you paying attention?”, looked over his shoulder and his son sitting next to him had vanished He looked down, and huge leopard prints. Within ten feet of a dozen people, half of them Bushmen, and none of them saw or heard a thing.
“And the calls for murder begin just as predicted and on schedule.”
Right on schedule.
No one mourns all the zebras eaten by Lions.
Some animals are more equal than others.
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