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To: HiTech RedNeck
Oh for Pete's sake, the point of the vanity is not whether Trump is the passive creation of the media or rather that Trump's candidacy is a joint venture of interaction between Trump and the media, the point is that the Trump phenomenon is a media phenomenon and as such it will live or die.

Trump supporters have got to deny that the Trump phenomenon is something other than a media phenomenon (however created) so they can deny the conclusion of the vanity. They do this by nitpicking whether Trump controls the media or the media created Trump.

They do not want to consider the distinction between a grassroots candidacy and the media phenomenon. They do not want to consider the implications of a media defined and driven candidacy.


57 posted on 07/31/2015 9:09:40 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Oh for Pete's sake, the point of the vanity is not whether Trump is the passive creation of the media

Well, your lead was "Trump as a candidate is almost entirely a creation of the media."

If you want to post a vanity taken seriously, learn something!


63 posted on 07/31/2015 9:21:46 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: nathanbedford

“Trump is the wrong messenger with the right message.”

Calm down, general. This is just skirmishing and there’s a long way to go. I’m for Cruz and I suspect many here are as well, while willing to hold Trump’s coat right now.
How do you win skirmishes? Arrive first with the most men, right?
Whatever created this phenomenon, after seeing more than a few pusillanimous, poltroonish politicians choosing discretion over valor, we’re just rallying to someone we see will fight like another, who stood like a stone wall and drew others to him.
Fortunes change quickly, leaders come and go, but when the dust settles and the smoke clears, in the end, win or lose, we’re all still on the same side.
At least now, even with the wrong messenger we’re fighting back.


73 posted on 07/31/2015 10:40:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: nathanbedford

For the media to serve so that Trump is helped does not prove there are no grass roots.

Those roots are hungering for the fertilization by what Trump has to say and are responding.

Now Trump may be insincere or vacillating and that will prove out soon enough if so. I think you are just making false distinctions, however.

If one snubbed all received messages because men did not invent them at the lowest level, one would also have to snub the bible.


110 posted on 08/01/2015 9:56:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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