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The defining moment of the debate will be if someone calls out the big-money corruption of government by name.


1 posted on 08/03/2015 5:40:01 PM PDT by 867V309
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Read Atlas Shrugged for the explanation.


2 posted on 08/03/2015 5:41:49 PM PDT by Misterioso (Islam is un-American and a plague on civilization.)
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Politicians from Both Sides of the Aisle: Corruption Has Destroyed America

Starting with politicians from both sides of the aisle.

3 posted on 08/03/2015 5:42:49 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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Term Limits is a great start to ridding ourselves of the corruption.
House 2 yrs. 4 terms
Senate 6 yrs. 2 terms
Court 10 yrs. 1 term total at all levels.


5 posted on 08/03/2015 5:52:17 PM PDT by Eternally-Optimistic (anything is possible)
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The only ones that doesn’t dare call these career politicians what they really are, they are “SPINELESS WHORES”, is someone in Washington, and the sooner they are called that, the better this country will be. But finding someone to do this will be be like looking for a needle in the haystack. Maybe it will take someone like Trump to do this, I don’t know, but we sure need one with enough balls to say this.


9 posted on 08/03/2015 6:06:59 PM PDT by gingerbread
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State secession is the ultimate nullification.


11 posted on 08/03/2015 6:17:56 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Exactly my point.....we don't need a Politician to run this country....we need a businessman to run this country...

Trump is one of the best businessmen there is...he makes millions...he buys, sells, barters, and makes money...

He wants to run this Country as a business to get it out of debt, to get trade coming back into here, and yet people are so stupid they can't see beyond their noses...

How many politicians have run this country???? and how's that working out for you now?????

Get off Trump and Cruz's back, and let them prove to you minions that there is life after obuma....

16 posted on 08/03/2015 6:33:06 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump....Make America Great Again....)
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No, politicians, you, as men and women, are destroying America.

Guns don't shoot people, Money and Bribes don't corrupt governments and countries.

People kill people, and politicians, people, corrupt countries

The difference is that dead people usually don't vote for the gunmen to shoot them, where as dead countries were there loading the bullets.

Incidentally, I whipped it up with a neighbor liberal (redundant, alas) yesterday on a number of topics. Psychology Masters degree this one. When I explained to her the notion of 'conservatism' meaning 'conserving the Constitution', she later tried to use that against me to prove that all illegals have a right to be here and have citizenship, because it says in the Constitution that 'that all people have the right to be in America and pursue happiness.'

I would call that an invitation to demise. Don't they teach psychologists about codependence and boundaries?

17 posted on 08/03/2015 6:36:21 PM PDT by tinyowl (penguin in transition)
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Thanks for posting/thinking. BTTT!


19 posted on 08/03/2015 6:41:49 PM PDT by PGalt
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If gang bangers gave police chiefs $400,000 for a 45 minute ‘speech’ everyone in the country would know it was a bribe...


24 posted on 08/03/2015 6:45:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (It takes a village of aborted dead babies to buy a Lamborghini - freeperblackdog)
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The Judiciary, including the Supreme Court! The entire Federal Government! American Universities! The Press! America is as corrupt as Rome was.

It is sick, godless, immoral, and corrupt.

The American people have lost their way.

25 posted on 08/03/2015 6:49:53 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("The politicians scattered like roaches" --Ann Coulter")
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Politicians from both sides of the aisle should be locked up in prison for financial crimes against the citizens of the republic.

THEY DID build this…enslaving us, our children and grandchildren…

http://www.usdebtclock.org

All assets should be seized.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder. - The Law; Bastiat

6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt…

7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game…

Rules for Changing a Limited Republican Government into an Unlimited Hereditary One…

11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks…

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/freneau/republic2monarchy.htm

Debates in the House of Representatives on the First Report on Public Credit 9–18 February 1790
James Jackson (Ga.)

But it is doubted with me whether a permanent funded debt is beneficial or not to any country.

The same effect must be produced that has taken place in other nations; it must either bring on a national bankruptcy or annihilate her existence as an independent empire. Hence I contend, sir, that a funding system, in this country, will be highly dangerous to the welfare of the republic; it may, for a moment, raise our credit and increase the circulation, by multiplying a new species of currency; but it must, in times afterward, settle upon our posterity a burthen which they can neither bear nor relieve themselves from. It will establish a precedent in America that may, and in all probability will, be pursued by the sovereign authority until it brings upon us that ruin which it has never failed to bring, or is inevitably bringing, upon all the nations of the earth who have had the temerity to make the experiment.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/875


30 posted on 08/03/2015 7:18:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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If government weren’t such a powerful racket, businesses wouldn’t have lobbyists to buy favors or for protection. Businesses who don’t pay up find themselves the targets of attacks by politicians. Hillary is a master at this method of extortion.


31 posted on 08/03/2015 9:10:42 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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