Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

FIRST ATOMIC BOMB DROPPED ON JAPAN; MISSLE IS EQUAL TO 20,000 TONS OF TNT (8/7/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/7/45 | Sidney Shalett, Clifton Daniel, Jay Walz, Lewis Wood, Howard W. Blakeslee, more

Posted on 08/07/2015 4:56:59 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

1

 photo 0807-new age_zpsciyhcv0t.jpg

2

 photo 0807-new age2_zps4b8b0qm2.jpg

3

 photo 0807-new age3_zpscxzitizh.jpg

4

 photo 0807-new age4_zpshptykurp.jpg

5

 photo 0807-new age5_zpsgr0mf3gr.jpg

6

 photo 0807-new age6_zpswqchbf5n.jpg

7

 photo 0807-new age7_zpsmmr9lvd9.jpg

8

 photo 0807-new age8_zpsyjecghxr.jpg

9

 photo 0807-new age9_zpsizsxswfl.jpg

10

 photo 0807-new age10_zpsl21eobvq.jpg

11

 photo 0807-new age11_zpsrkdhw43m.jpg

12

 photo 0807-new age12_zps8vifpqes.jpg

13

 photo 0807-new age13_zpsvauri4xy.jpg

14

 photo 0807-new age14_zps0pfophg5.jpg

15

 photo 0807-new age15_zps4fhoa8ef.jpg

16

 photo 0807-new age16_zpsgyclynhq.jpg

17

 photo 0807-new age17_zpseldcatlm.jpg

18

 photo 0807-new age18_zps0xarkdle.jpg

19

 photo 0807-new age19_zpslgxwlfcc.jpg

20

 photo 0807-new age20_zps9nlbtnqg.jpg

21

 photo 0807-new age21_zpsgfetbuz1.jpg

22

 photo 0807-new age22_zpsokqywse4.jpg

23

 photo 0807-new age23_zps5tjwmr4s.jpg

24

 photo 0807-new age24_zpsthshunmc.jpg

25

 photo 0807-new age25_zpspn1hiu25.jpg

26

 photo 0807-new age26_zps98c5bbkg.jpg


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last
To: PeteePie
PeteePie: "Were the antennae necessary for proximity detonation above the surface?"

Sorry, no idea, the drawing leaves out all reference to radar & electrical components.

41 posted on 08/07/2015 8:24:11 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Fresh Wind
My father worked on the Manhattan Project, and I have both his pin and certificate. This seemed like an appropriate day to post those images.

My father's first cousin, a chemist, was drafted during WWII and posted to Oak Ridge, TN. For the rest of his life, he refused to say he had worked on the A-bomb, but there was nothing else going on at Oak Ridge. After the war, he spent the rest of his career teaching biochemistry to medical students.

42 posted on 08/07/2015 8:28:19 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

Canada Ping!

43 posted on 08/07/2015 9:57:32 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fresh Wind
That is really cool! I do work over at the Hanford Facility in Eastern Washington quite a bit. (Called Richland City in the article. I told my mom that and she said “Oh - that's where Frank Johnson worked during the war - making airplane wings.”

“Um, mom - he wasn't making airplane wings - that was where they processed the uranium for the A-bombs.”

“No - he worked for Alcoa, making aluminum airplane wings.”

I'm not sure if I ever convinced her that he may have thought he was making parts for planes, but he wasn't.

The housing was off the base and in town. But the houses were all owned and managed by the government. Part of the reason was so “maintenance” workers could go in and check for burnt-out light bulbs, and then go through the house looking for any secret information or things that a worker might have brought home.

44 posted on 08/07/2015 10:58:04 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Swtx3phmrM

Manhattan Project (by RUSH)

Great song that wraps up the history of the entire thing:

Imagine a time when it all began
In the dying days of a war
A weapon - that would settle the score
Whoever found it first
Would be sure to do their worst -
They always had before...

Imagine a man where it all began
A scientist pacing the floor
In each nation - always eager to explore
To build the best big stick
To turn the winning trick -
But this was something more...

The big bang - took and shook the world
Shot down the rising sun
the end was begun - it would hit everyone
When the chain reaction was done
The big shots - try to hold it back
Fools try to wish it away
The hopeful depend on a world without end
Whatever the hopeless may say

Imagine a place where it all began
They gathered from across the land
To work in the secrecy of the desert sand
All of the brightest boys
To play with the biggest toys -
More than they bargained for...

Imagine a man when it all began
The pilot of “Enola Gay”
Flying out of the shockwave on that August day
All the powers that be, and the course of history,
Would be changed for evermore...


45 posted on 08/07/2015 11:07:21 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: henkster
Thanks for the interesting essay.

It's amazing how long communists and their fellow-travellers clung to Soviet propaganda, and many still do despite the Venona disclosures and for a time opening of Soviet archives.

These daily threads since Roosevelt's death have revealed how the decision to drop the bombs was made and it had very little to do with the Russians. I would say, however, that some icing on the cake was that we really didn't need them in the Pacific war anymore.

Whatever one thinks about Harry Truman, what you saw was what you got. He told you what he thought straightaway. When I was growing up if the K.C. TV stations wanted a salty quote for the evening news all they had to do was go out to Independence and ask Harry for one.

46 posted on 08/07/2015 11:09:41 AM PDT by colorado tanker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Fresh Wind

That is amazing memorabilia. Thanks for posting!


47 posted on 08/07/2015 11:10:30 AM PDT by colorado tanker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson
Winston Churchill (p.7): "By God's mercy British and American science outpaced all German efforts."

Was Churchill correct? Did God ensure that the Allies had this awful killer before the Axis did?

1. Do we have evidence of God playing favorites?
The Bible is replete with dozens of examples of God ensuring victory to one side or another, too many to recount here. Indeed, the question is often sneeringly posed whether God even favors one sports team over another; but assuredly He often does, for His own purposes, and who can deny the omnipotent God that right?

2. If God is a God of love, as He claims, would He be complicit in the use of such a weapon of mass destruction?
Yes, He has often permitted mass death; moreover, He has even caused it, as He will surely do again during the Great Tribulation. Why? Precisely because of His love. He uses these events (1) to limit evil and (2) to direct the attention of His beloved humans to their mortality and their utter dependence on Him, so as to encourage as many as possible to do the best thing for themselves: to turn to Him in faith in His goodness and love for them.

3. Did God favor the Allies in this war?
It seems clear that He did, for at least two reasons.
a. Evidential: Far too many examples occurred of seeming divine intervention on the Allies' side, besides this one, to ignore.
b. Inferential: While sometimes God has permitted despots to succeed for a season to teach lessons (e.g., Pharaoh, Shalmeneser, Nebuchadnezzar, Caesar, etc.), the scale of atrocities committed and promised by the Axis dwarfs any limited despotic success permitted by God previously. He did not permit their final victory, for His many good purposes, not least of which was the establishment immediately after the war of the reborn Israel.

48 posted on 08/07/2015 11:40:20 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson

War Department calls it a cosmic bomb.


Again, everyone knew what it was. There is no explanation of concept. Just like we all know what a warp drive is.

Terminology is still being defined. Yesterday is was an automic bomb in Nimitz report. Today it is a cosmic bomb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_bomb_(phrase)
“Cosmic bomb” was another name for the atomic bomb. It was used for a short period of time in 1945 and 1946. The first New York Times story about the bombing of Hiroshima referred to “this terrible new weapon, which the War Department also calls the ‘Cosmic Bomb.’”[1] Another articles noted that “what the Army has called the ‘cosmic bomb’ was not regarded by those responsible for winning the war against Japan as the factor which, of itself, would give the war its finishing touch”,[2] and a headline reported “Secret War Nipped Reich Cosmic Bomb.”[3]

Thomas Pynchon uses the phrase several times in his 1973 novel Gravity’s Rainbow, which is set roughly in the period during which the term was current.

The term rapidly fell into disuse as applied to weaponry, soon yielding to “atomic bomb”


Now my question is when did we move to using nuclear and why?


49 posted on 08/07/2015 11:47:55 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson

Sobering Awareness of Power

It was obvious that officials at the highest levels made the important decision to release news of the atomic bomb because of the psychological effect it may have in forcing Japan to surrender. However, there are some officials who feel privately it might have been well to keep this completely secret. Their opinion can be summed up in the comment by one spokesman: “Why bother with the psychological warfare against an enemy that already is beaten and hasn’t sense enough to quit and save herself from utter doom?”


Ok, lets say it in unison:

BECAUSE THEY WERE DEFEATED BUT HADN’T SURRENDERED.


50 posted on 08/07/2015 11:58:05 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

BECAUSE THEY WERE DEFEATED BUT HADN’T SURRENDERED.


51 posted on 08/07/2015 12:08:23 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple
Just like we all know what a warp drive is.

But I didn't really understand warp drive until Scotty explained it to me.

 photo 0807-new age31_zpsy1jdv5mi.jpg

52 posted on 08/07/2015 12:12:14 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson

One of the reasons people understood the concept of the atomic bomb was that Radium was very much in the news in prior years.

The new technology of luminescent watches and the “radium girls” were in the news. A paint called Undark and used for military watches so military was very aware of Radium in everyday life. Marie Currie was in every science text book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium

Uranium had no large scale application in the late 19th century and therefore no large uranium mines existed. In the beginning the only larger source for uranium ore was the silver mines at Joachimsthal (now Jáchymov) in the Austrian Empire.[14] The uranium ore was only a by-product of the mining activities. After the isolation of radium by Marie and Pierre Curie from uranium ore from Joachimsthal several scientists started to isolate radium in small quantities. Later small companies purchased mine tailings from Joachimsthal mines and started isolating radium. In 1904 the Austrian government took over the ownership of the mines and stopped exporting raw ore. For some time the radium availability was low.[27]

The amounts of radium produced were and are always relatively small; for example, in 1918, 13.6 g of radium were produced in the United States.[29] In 1954, the total worldwide supply of purified radium amounted to about 5 pounds (2.3 kg),[30] and it is still in this range today, while the annual production of pure radium compounds is only about 100 g in total today.[31

Radium was formerly used in self-luminous paints for watches, nuclear panels, aircraft switches, clocks, and instrument dials. A typical self-luminous watch that uses radium paint contains around 1 microgram of radium.[30]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls

From 1917 to 1926, U.S. Radium Corporation, originally called the Radium Luminous Material Corporation, was engaged in the extraction and purification of radium from carnotite ore to produce luminous paints, which were marketed under the brand name “Undark”. As a defense contractor, U.S. Radium was a major supplier of radioluminescent watches to the military.


53 posted on 08/07/2015 12:24:42 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson

In one article today it mentions the last public statistic on uranium production is 1941.

Some interesting things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining

Until World War II uranium mining was done primarily for the radium content.

. The Manhattan Project initially purchased uranium ore from the Belgian Congo

American uranium ores mined in Colorado were mixed ores of vanadium and uranium, but because of wartime secrecy, the Manhattan Project would publicly admit only to purchasing the vanadium, and did not pay the uranium miners for the uranium content. In a much later lawsuit, many miners were able to reclaim lost profits from the U.S. government.

Intensive exploration for uranium started after the end of World War II as a result of the military and civilian demand for uranium. There were three separate periods of uranium exploration or “booms.” These were from 1956 to 1960, 1967 to 1971, and from 1976 to 1982[citation


54 posted on 08/07/2015 12:44:29 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: colorado tanker

It looks like the Ruusians are still mad about it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3321916/posts


55 posted on 08/07/2015 12:46:13 PM PDT by henkster (Where'd my tagline go?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Homer_J_Simpson


56 posted on 08/07/2015 12:48:51 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

More on uranium. It was a pigment? (yellowcake)

http://www.handspiral.com/Uranium.htm
These pieces are very rare. I have a very limited supply of uranium oxide (U.), and I do not know if I will ever be able to get any more. While they are slightly radioactive, the uranium in these glazes is trapped in the glaze

http://science.howstuffworks.com/uranium-mining1.htm

the Atomic Energy Act of 1946, which allowed uranium mining in the United States as long as the finished product ended up in government hands [source: Atomic Energy Commission].

“Uranium went from being a weed to a weapon,” said Michael Amundson, a historian, professor and expert on the Atomic Age. “Instead of serving as this useless pigment, it became a strategic element of the war.”


57 posted on 08/07/2015 12:52:11 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: henkster

That’s rich - Russians talking about war crimes.


58 posted on 08/07/2015 12:52:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

The comment by Enola Gay’s tailgunner “Sir, are we splitting atoms today?” shows that the concept was not totally unknown. And I recall Laurence’s article several years ago about a block of urnaium providing far greater energy than coal being used to power submarines and ships.


59 posted on 08/07/2015 12:52:21 PM PDT by henkster (Where'd my tagline go?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: henkster

“Sir, are we splitting atoms today?”


http://news.yahoo.com/swedish-man-caught-trying-split-atoms-home-153341057.html

“I have always been interested in physics and chemistry,” Handl said, adding he just wanted to “see if it’s possible to split atoms at home.”

Another perspective on splitting atoms at home
http://www.mrjam.org/2012/03/how-to-split-atoms-at-home.html

“We want to split an atom as a kind of home science project. We have loads of atoms around the house which we’re not really using.”


60 posted on 08/07/2015 1:04:59 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson