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No, Donald Trump is not a “true conservative”
Hotair ^ | 08/08/2015 | Taylor Millard

Posted on 08/09/2015 5:09:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s like, “Who’s afraid of the big, bad Trump.”
I’ve seen freepers as giddy as sparrows in the snake house.
It’s embarrassing. Grow up, kiddos.

This is realpolitik politics: What can I do for you? What will you do for me?
Again, grow up or go back to being obsolete for another 8 years.
Thanks to the GOP-e. (And I don’t need a sermon, padre.)


81 posted on 08/09/2015 6:57:49 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fortunately, Lafayette was allowed to help the American rebels- even though he wasn’t an American.

We were a lot smarter before emails were invented!


82 posted on 08/09/2015 6:57:51 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Starstruck

Like a blind squirrel, he found some nuts. Now can he realize where the tree is located? Perhaps so. His style seems to be to barge on boldly wherever fate has taken him.


83 posted on 08/09/2015 6:58:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MrEdd

I assume you meant his stance on immigration before he moderated his stance?

Or, this toughness on radical Islam, for example, his criticism of Pam Gellar?


84 posted on 08/09/2015 6:58:45 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: VanDeKoik

Wow, you really are a Leftist, aren’t you? You think Cruz would wilt under the same pressure?

The difference, Cruz handles himself with class and doesn’t make a fool of himself...


85 posted on 08/09/2015 7:00:06 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Jack Hydrazine

ON HEALTHCARE:

In last week debates, Trump said the following:

“As far as single payer, it works in Canada, It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here.”

Trump didn’t explain what might have changed in the last 15 years that would prevent the United States from adopting Canadian-style health care.

I’m still waiting for him to clarify himself.

Since Conservatives DREAD a Canadian or United Kingdom style single-payer government run system, I don;t understand why Trump is praising that system at all.


86 posted on 08/09/2015 7:01:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the USA itself being the safety valve is part of that picture.

Medicine doesn’t just progress itself by magic.

It’s one thing for a Canada or a Scotland to do this, with people being able to, er, trump the system by visiting the USA.

It’s another thing for the USA to do it.


87 posted on 08/09/2015 7:04:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

rump supported the Supreme Court’s 2005 decision in Kelo v. City of New London, giving public authorities the right to seize private land for economic development by private investors. Trump said, “I happen to agree with [the decision] 100 percent.” -

See more at:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420093/presidential-candidate-donald-trump-double-agent-for-left

How’s that for supporting Civil Liberties? (NOT).

Also in his book, THE AMERICA WE DESERVE, Trump highlighted his support for prosecuting “hate crimes” against homosexuals in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve.

“Hate Crime” is a term used to extend special protections for a specific classes and in essence elevates the importance of these classes above others.

For example, murder of homosexual or heterosexual should be viewed equally under the law and punished equally. Creating special classes is a liberal tactic used to divide and segment society.

SEE HERE:

https://books.google.com/books?id=PV6qZU_xev8C&pg=PT32&lpg=PT32&dq=One+of+our+next+president%E2%80%99s+most+important+goals+must+be+to+induce+a+greater+tolerance+for+diversity.+The+senseless+murder+of+Matthew+Shepard+in+Wyoming-where+an+innocent+boy+was+killed+because+of+his+sexual+orientation-+turned+my+stomach.+We+must+work+towards+an+America+where+these+kinds+of+hate+crimes+are+unthinkable.&source=bl&ots=IKY0UygPy7&sig=qqASyufN-FPZGHyypccpaQdgsyY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAmoVChMIva3NprqAxwIVR1seCh1sgw3p#v=onepage&q=One%20of%20our%20next%20president%E2%80%99s%20most%20important%20goals%20must%20be%20to%20induce%20a%20greater%20tolerance%20for%20diversity.%20The%20senseless%20murder%20of%20Matthew%20Shepard%20in%20Wyoming-where%20an%20innocent%20boy%20was%20killed%20because%20of%20his%20sexual%20orientation-%20turned%20my%20stomach.%20We%20must%20work%20towards%20an%20America%20where%20these%20kinds%20of%20hate%20crimes%20are%20unthinkable.&f=false

Has he changed his opinion? Not sure.


88 posted on 08/09/2015 7:05:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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To: TNMOUTH
Got schooled by the mouth. Oh noes.

And it was really easy for the Mouth.

Mouth smart considering his mama marry first cousin who lived under bridge.

But, hey, that's where trolls live.

Mouth would live under bridge, but he so smart, he can't find bridge. So he just troll at FR.

But he berry berry smart.

After all...he be da Mouth.

89 posted on 08/09/2015 7:06:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why is the USA different from Canada and Scotland?

Trump seems to think that socialized medicine is OK for others but not for the USA. I’m still waiting for him to tell us why that is so.

If Trump were consistent, he would have pointed out that healthcare IS NOT working well in both the country he touts.

See here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/08/07/no-donald-trump-single-payer-health-care-doesnt-work-incredibly-well-in-canada-scotland/


90 posted on 08/09/2015 7:08:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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To: SeekAndFind

All this boils down to: will Trump respect what he has tapped into. Or will he squander it. The support will walk away if it sees he still is pushing foolishness.

It would be good if someone started a dialogue with Trump on this.


91 posted on 08/09/2015 7:08:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The USA was the defacto world driver of medical progress, because the markets for it were much more open.

That’s the difference.


92 posted on 08/09/2015 7:10:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Starstruck
His past positions have been pro-choice, anti-second amendment.

So him calling for the shut down of the government until Planned Parenthood is defunded is eveidence of him being pro choice?  Okay, thanks.

He donated to the Clinton Foundation and supported Barack Obama in 2008.

He donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Republicans too.  This undoubtedly makes him a Conservative, right?  I mean if donating to Leftists makes him a Leftist, then donating to Republicans makes him a Conservative?

Oh wait, you mean he can donate like this and not be either one?  You mean his operating in New York state where Democrats hold the major state and federal offices, he might contribute more to them?  Wow.  Who would have every thought of that?

I don't think I would like donating to Democrats to have access, but I might if I was worth $9 billion and the jobs of thosuands of people I was responsible for were on the line.


He may have switched positions according to him, but if I was naïve enough to have had the same positions I would have a lot of self doubt.

Have you noticed that since he announced for his run for office, nobody has trashed him on ANY policy statement he has made?  Why do you think that is?  Conservatives haven't.  Republicans haven't.  Democrats haven't.  They just ry to smear him and say he's a Leftist.  Rather strange isn't it.

Why don't you link me to where you have?  I'd like to see what you disagree with that he has said lately.


Those positions are leftist. He is 69 years old. Having leftist positions in your 20's and 30's is one thing.

He has also made Conservative statements over since the 80s.  If your critea of a few bad comments makes him all bad, then wouldn't a few good comments make him all good?

I could possibly cut him some slack. But if you are still changing major positions in your 50's and 60's your moral foundation is weak.

I'll just hang here waiting for you to point out what you disagree with, that he has talked about recently.

93 posted on 08/09/2015 7:11:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If the fetus at one minute old is not alive, what is it?)
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To: DoughtyOne

In the end, if Trump wants to keep the momentum, Trump is going to have to respect the, er, momentor.

This is bigger than Trump. Fate (to speak rhetorically, we know, as always, it is the Lord) has matched some very hot issues up with his famous megaphone. And he is getting mileage.

The question now is what shall the rest of us do with this phenomenon.

Is any kind of Donald dialogue going on? I think he should be hearing from these new grass roots, urging him to understand what he has tapped into.


94 posted on 08/09/2015 7:15:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

RE: The USA was the defacto world driver of medical progress, because the markets for it were much more open.

So, it’s OK if Canada and Scotland are single payer but not the USA?

Why is that? Seeing how it DOES NOT work in both countries but he praises them anyway.


95 posted on 08/09/2015 7:17:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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To: SeekAndFind

They have a crazy way of being loyal to it locally.

Call it insane, and I’d agree, between me and you and the doorpost.

But anyhow, if Trump builds in Scotland or Canada those are the attitudes he sees.


96 posted on 08/09/2015 7:18:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is stupid.

Besides Cruz and Trump, the candidates all have the same donors, supporters, and friends.

What they say during the campaign has no bearing on how they will govern.

WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY ELECTION CYCLE AND WE NEVER LEARN

97 posted on 08/09/2015 7:19:57 PM PDT by exist
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump does not have true conservative bonafides, nor does Florina. If you look into their near pasts, you can see that there is a lot of political maneuvering. I’m not saying that they have not truly changed views about conservative issues, but Florina is way out of the conservative circle, if you ask me. Trump’s manifesto at least makes the case for true conservatism, if he intends to abide by them and not just run on them to get elected then do as he pleases. He does seem to understand that the country is not going to survive as is. Florina seems to think a few things need tweaking. I am still 100% in for Cruz, personally.


98 posted on 08/09/2015 7:26:02 PM PDT by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I'll just hang here waiting for you to point out what you disagree with, that he has talked about recently.

"Have you noticed that they run as us! That’s how they run"

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz warned a conservative grassroots audience Saturday that many of his Republican rivals are faking conservative credentials in their bids to become the GOP nominee.

I support Cruz and agree with his statement.

99 posted on 08/09/2015 7:27:20 PM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Starstruck

RE: So him calling for the shut down of the government until Planned Parenthood is defunded is eveidence of him being pro choice? Okay, thanks.

THAT is not the issue, the issue is him FLIP FLOPPING at a very convenient time.

One cannot help but think that Trump is an opportunist – one who, by the way, continues to contribute to liberal Democrats, including $6,000 to liberal Democrat Kamala Harris in her successful campaign for California attorney general, and who now is running to replace retiring California senator Barbara Boxer.

Because, of course, a Republican, conservative, tough-on-illegal-immigration, Obamacare-overturning, tax-lowering, spending-reducing presidential candidate, if elected, would want to have as many liberal Democrats in Congress as possible.

In the debate, He explains his contribution to the Clinton Foundation by telling the nation that he did it in order for Hillary to attend his wedding. SAY WHAT?

Why is it important for Hillary to attend his wedding? Will it be any less legitimate if she were absent? I wonder why nobody called him out on this.

Those who are skeptical of him are skeptical for a good reason.

Let’s look at economic policy. Larry Kudlow, after reviewing Trump’s past statements on taxes, spending, and trade, explains:

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed back in May 1999, Trump praised Ronald Reagan’s tax-rate cuts.

[…]

Trump also attacked [former Senator Bill] Bradley for putting a lid on IRA savings accounts, which caused a big drop in personal retirement saving.

[…]

But Trump shifted into tax-the-rich mode during the 2000 presidential campaign[, proposing] a one-time tax of 14.25 percent on the assets of individuals and trusts in excess of $10 million [to] pay off America’s debt.

[…]

Later on, Trump shifted again, saying he was strongly in favor of extending the George W. Bush tax cuts ...

And so on.

Trump supporters have explained their unshakeable support for Trump as “He says what I think.” That’s exactly right: Trump says what YOU think, not what he thinks.

And with five party switches and potentially a sixth on the horizon, we may never know. Because Donald Trump is an opportunist, with numerous past flip-flops to prove it.

And you blame us for being skeptical?

Sorry, WE ARE JUSTIFIED IN OUR SKEPTICISM.


100 posted on 08/09/2015 7:27:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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