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54.5 mpg isn't a done deal, EPA official says
Automotive News ^ | AUGUST 10, 2015 | Richard Truett

Posted on 08/10/2015 5:35:04 AM PDT by thackney

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To: JohnBovenmyer

I got a better solution. Arrest those responsible for this, disband the EPA and use ALL the funds that are used to run that agency to fund the health issue that will result in this government caused disaster.

Oh, and the plume has reached Lake Powell as of Friday. Very soon Lake Mead.


41 posted on 08/10/2015 10:19:23 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Well there are about 10.3 trillion gallons in lake mead, so the Colorado spill is insignificant.

10,300,000,000,000 gals / 10,000,000 gals = 1 part in 1,300,000


42 posted on 08/10/2015 10:30:25 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

It is not the parts per million with heavy metals. It is the accumulative effect. Keep drinking it and it adds up to some pretty serious health problems.

Maybe it is minute, thats fine. But would you purposely drink mercury, arsenic, cyanide?

Now to be sure, there are some of these naturally within that Lake. But why in the hell would anyone accept this as a result of an agency that force themselves upon the American citizen daily through its ideology?

Yes it will settle out in time. But who pays for the health effects of those effected as a result of this debacle?
Remember the Downwinders?


43 posted on 08/10/2015 10:50:27 AM PDT by crz
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To: thackney

Aluminum auto wheels are both lighter and stiffer than stamped steel wheels. The sheet meal structures could go either way on energy absorption.


44 posted on 08/10/2015 11:08:10 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: crz
I'd go for arresting those responsible if possible. Not sure whether they currently would get out as governmentally immune; if so it would be ex post facto to fix that for them, although we could use this 'crisis' to fix that loophole for their next screw up. I'd love to see EPA disbanded. I was against Nixon in '68, though too young to vote Reagan then, mostly because I foresaw his domestic liberalism. There probably should be state level regulations at some level. Let the states compete to find the appropriate level. However you're not going not accomplish that dream until after 2016 election, at best. Taking it out of EPA bonuses probably would get past the GOPe. It would take a lot of screaming to get it past the Union side of the Rats, although if you get enough of the Green Rats mad it might either pass, or at worst make an excellent campaign issue for our side.

As for using the entire EPA budget to fund health remediation I can neither imagine the resulting health issues will be nearly that expensive, nor would I want to leave that huge a budget within federal control. Returning the federal EPA budget to the taxpayers should be the long term goal, with the states subtracting whatever, likely smaller share, is really needed for environmental regulation at their level.

45 posted on 08/10/2015 11:24:05 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
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To: crz

http://blog.yourwatercolorado.org/2015/03/19/animas-river-stakeholders-group-an-unlikely-alliance-for-watershed-health-in-the-san-juans/


46 posted on 08/10/2015 11:27:01 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Here is what has to be done. The local county or citizens have to hire a private expert to come in and test that stuff for them.
The lies are already starting and the finger pointing is starting.

I will bet the Navajo nation is doing that right as of now.
I voted for Barry Goldwater. Did not vote in the elections after...till Reagan.


47 posted on 08/10/2015 11:31:35 AM PDT by crz
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Oh, and the plume has reached Lake Powell as of Friday.

None of the reports I found over the weekend have shown the plume to have made it out of New Mexico (most were from early Friday morning). Do you have an updated link to show it's at Lake Powell?

48 posted on 08/10/2015 11:47:15 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Sequoyah101

All central planners are full of it. They always pretend that they’re not forcing you when they really are and really want to. We overthrew the British to get rid of only one king, yet today we’re ruled by a thousand kinglings.


49 posted on 08/11/2015 4:21:40 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

As I said in another post to you, we know that what we are doing is not working. We know that placing our faith in the legal political process has been a waste of time and misplaced trust for a long time. We have been conditioned to reject the thought of the alternative means for redress of our grievances as too dangerous or somehow unlawful... to take back what is ours that we have given. Imagine that, conditioned to not take the very action that allowed this nation to be established.

How is it that a child born today must automatically accept laws that he did not and could not have agreed to?


50 posted on 08/11/2015 8:26:05 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: thackney

I consistently get > 50 mpg with my 2006 Tdi, so 54.5 is no big deal to me.

51 posted on 08/11/2015 8:36:37 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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