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CIVIL WAR ON THE RIGHT
The American Spectator ^ | 8/11/2015 | Roger Kaplan

Posted on 08/11/2015 2:56:06 AM PDT by Oklahoma

What ever happened to Ronald Reagan’s “Thou shall speak no ill of a fellow Republican”? And what about W. F. Buckley’s admonition to always work for the Republican with the best chance to get in? He meant the most conservative candidate in a position to get in. I do not think he meant you should vote for the strongest conservative even when the strongest conservative was likely to get creamed by the weakest liberal. He meant you should vote for a weakly conservative or imperfectly conservative candidate if he is in a position to beat the left. No enemies on the right, is what Reagan and Buckley meant, in sum: two great men who thought alike in many ways and whom we miss, boy, do we miss them.

If Mr. Donald Trump declares himself a conservative and a Republican, and if he looks good, then what is the problem? This is, however, an academic question because as of now he has not declared himself either. As far as anyone knows he is a Democrat and a liberal. As Joe Queenan points out, there are strong reasons to believe he may be hand in glove with her.

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To: Oklahoma

“fellow Republican”?

Those are hard to identify the last decade or so.

Would that be the open borders Republicans, the spendthrift Republicans, or the go along to get along with Obama Republicans. How about the pro-gay marriage Republicans or the abortion for fun & profit Republicans?

Just how do I distinguish a Republican from a Democrat?


21 posted on 08/11/2015 6:25:35 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: nonliberal

Does he get them back if they divorced? And, why didn’t she spring for a pair of “Nuticles” for him?

BTW, Nuticles are REAL! pronounced nooticles. My daughter got her big Great Dane deballed and I wanted her to see about them for him....it’s a guy thing....


22 posted on 08/11/2015 6:37:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Probaly not. She will keep them in the divorce.


23 posted on 08/11/2015 6:45:34 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: Din Maker

The biggest RINO around right now is Donald Trump.

If you think Jeffrey Lord, R. Emmett Tyrrell, Anastasia O’Grady and Wladyslaw Pleszczynski are as well you need to broaden your reading. They aren’t.

The whole point of what Buckley always advocated was that most of the time you don’t have the luxury of voting for the perfect candidate. Sometimes you vote for the better of a group of imperfect candidates. Sometimes you vote for the lesser of evils. Sometimes you just vote against a particularly bad candidate.

My first choice is Cruz. If he’s not available Walker is my second choice and Jindal is my third.
If when the primary gets to Oklahoma and I have the choice I’ll vote against the RINO Trump.


24 posted on 08/11/2015 3:20:17 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: be-baw

See my previous post. At what point did you think your post was productive?


25 posted on 08/11/2015 3:23:08 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Mister Da

“Ye shall judge them by their fruits.”


26 posted on 08/11/2015 3:25:23 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: trebb

The Trump cultists aren’t open to any suggestion that they could be wrong.

As soon as someone points out inconsistencies in Trump’s positions or statements they are attacked by the cult as being a RINO or GOPe apologist. It is meant and taken as an insult.

I supported Reagan in 1976 and since that time I’ve always voted for the most Conservative candidate on the ballot. Feel free to go back and read all of my previous posts on FR and you will discover I’ve been very consistent in what I advocate and post these past sixteen years.


27 posted on 08/11/2015 3:46:38 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Oklahoma

how can it be a “civil war” when it is the ENTIRE USA vs a few DC effetes?


28 posted on 08/11/2015 3:50:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gaffer
I read this. It was hard to follow, frankly.

It reads like he was writing it more for his friends in the club (after a few drinks maybe).

How exactly do they do that when you have a debate moderator team of media personalities who are party line establishment? Their goal for that night was “put together some doozies and controversy.”

The Fox News panel was certainly trying for controversy. But what Kaplan has in mind is a lot more Establishment than the FNS guys were:

Now one simple way to start, and I am open to other suggestions, is to call a few of these candidates before a panel of sensible fellows, including Mr. Lord and myself, and also Mr. Tyrrell and Mr. Pleszczynski, and while we are at it Mr. Erickson and Mr. Fund, the National Review guy, and let’s get Mr. Barnes too, the political ace from the Weekly Standard, and I think we should also have Miss Peggy Noonan and Miss Anastasia O’Grady, because otherwise Mr. Lord will say we are a bunch of male chauvinist hidebound pigs and I am not a pig, plus they are brilliant, brilliant, I get all my foreign insights from Miss O’Grady and my political views from Miss Noonan, except those I get from Bret Stephens and Dan Henninger.

I don't understand everything he's saying, but it sounds like Megyn and Bret and Chris weren't Conservative Establishment enough for Roger.

29 posted on 08/11/2015 4:03:02 PM PDT by x
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To: Hugin

I was just telling hubbie same thing today. Pick 5 or 6 relative questions and give each 2 minutes. Moderators are just that. Moderate, don’t judge, don’t show bias.

These are not debates. Give us a real debate. Let us hear each ones ideas. They report, we decide. No “gotcha” crap.


30 posted on 08/11/2015 7:41:25 PM PDT by I_be_tc
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