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Outsiders take over GOP
The Hill ^ | 8/12/15 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 08/12/2015 6:14:45 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley
Conservatives with a middle class orientation have been put on the back shelf and they are furious. They are being told that they(the elites are working together to get things done). some of what they are doing amnesty in particular is nothing less than treason. The entire connection between us and them is being broken. But, this is not new.

It happens once a generation(between 30 and 40 years apart). The elites seek a point of equilibrium where they work together against their people. This happens when there is not a real difference between them(think Bush and Clinton). This is an “era of good feeling”. The original era of good feeling occurred during the Monroe administration. The resulting rebellion was the Jacksonian one. It was a complete shift against the apparatus put into place by the founding fathers. Whigs and Democrats became hard to separate in the 1850’s so the entire system blew up again. The next era of good feeling came in the 1990’s when the elites again were blown away by the populists and the progressives. Then again Hoover and Smith seemed to agree to much in 1928 and e resulting upheaval changed the guards in both parties with the “Catholic Bosses” and the Dewey, Warren, Brownell wing taking over the GOP. By the time of Kennedy and Nixon there was again little differences an we “heard a choice not an echo” The Goldwater revolt took the establishment out again and the Dem “Catholic bosses” fell to lib gentries later. Now we have the Bush and Clinton era where there is little differences and the elites have learned to work together again. And what happens? The lib gentries were blown away by the radical left and the Republican establishment is being blown away by Trump , Cruz, Paul etc.

The Dems give way to a completely different group when this happens. In the Republican world the country clubbers loose control and always seem to come back in control later on. They never learn do they?

41 posted on 08/12/2015 6:57:23 PM PDT by amnestynone (Political Correction is a tactic based social intimidation to suppress opposing views.)
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To: redfreedom
I can only hope the GOP “as constructed” does not survive, if it does, the country won’t.

"as corrupted" would be more like it.

42 posted on 08/12/2015 7:07:22 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The kangaroos have taken over the supreme court.)
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To: markomalley

I will never again listen to a word spoken by the Establishment Repubs. and believe any of it. Their actions in the Miss. Senate race was below snake crap. They made promises for years what they would do once in Majority.
They spit in our faces after given that Majority

90+ Million Americans unemployed and they continue to allow an invasion of illegal parasites and low skilled workers. Fact is the true Unemployment rate in America is north of 22%.If the crying cheeto and the post turtle beat the left with those figures and tell the Public they are putting you out of work the pressure would force Action. But that won’t happen because everyone knows the RINOS are paid whores for The Chamber and big business to keep wages low

Now the little Bastard Rand Paul has accepted the roll as attack dog for the Washington Cartel.
Today he started running ads for them attacking Trump

Make no mistake this little turd is McConnell’s
Bitch. He made his bed aligning with him in the Kentucky Primary and supporting the RINO dirty tricks in Mississippi

FURP


43 posted on 08/12/2015 7:10:52 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: markomalley

I would add Cruz to the list of outsiders. I doubt he gets very many invitations to attend big-donor galas either.


44 posted on 08/12/2015 7:11:33 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And they did it through the ‘advisers’, where at least half of them (it seems) are gay, or unwilling to disclose their personal life, but look gay.

There’s nothing wrong with having a gay ‘adviser’ around, as they represent some voters and perhaps can protect you against stepping in it with that bunch (who knows...I’m trying to be generous here).

But when your KEY ADVISERS, at least half, out themselves and state that they flat-out support gay marriage, then WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? And the two questions to ask are why do Republicans INSIST on keeping them around, and are they a 5th column. The second one is easy to answer - but the first one makes no sense, you’d think they want to win once in a while.


45 posted on 08/12/2015 7:16:35 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: markomalley

Insiders are #VichyRepublicans


46 posted on 08/12/2015 7:17:58 PM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: mrsmith

They are between a rock, and a hard place on that. The way I see it for Republicans is, they have a small window to make a stand immediately following an election. They will get hammered by the press and the Democrats, but the the hysteria will subside, and give them talking points for the next election. This time they used that period to ram Cromnibus down our throats, and fully fund Obama’s amnesty. The closer it gets to the 2016 election, the less they want to take a controversial stand. I understand their concerns, but I am sick and tired of being told to keep my powder dry. Give us a conservative presidential candidate, or give us Trump 3P.


47 posted on 08/12/2015 7:21:05 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: markomalley

Trump/Cruz 2016

As Teddy Roosevelt said in 1910:

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”


48 posted on 08/12/2015 7:23:27 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: markomalley

“Others think Republican voters will eventually coalesce around a more traditional GOP candidate — perhaps Bush, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker or Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).”

Not this Republican voter. I’m done with the GOPe. And I don’t even care if hillary finishes off the country, because only an outsider like Trump would POTENTIALLY make a difference anyway. We already know that the Republican branch of the Uniparty hasn’t done one damn thing to stop one damn iota of the obama/progressive/kommie agenda. in fact, if one of the GOPe insiders is the nominee, i would be DELIGHTED to see them slaughtered in the general election as the GOP “base” they are so disdainful of turns their collective backs on the GOPe SOBs.


49 posted on 08/12/2015 7:28:20 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: BobL
you’d think they want to win once in a while.

They always win, even when they "lose". They are part of the Uni Party.

50 posted on 08/12/2015 7:28:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: mrsmith

Dumb and dumber don’t have two neurons to rub together combined.


51 posted on 08/12/2015 7:29:45 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: markomalley

I don’t want the establishment to get it. I want them hung for the treason they’ve already committed.


52 posted on 08/12/2015 7:33:44 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: mrsmith

“Wouldn’t it be something if Mitch and John passed something- anything- conservative: to help the RINO presidential candidates by counteracting the anger at the establishment?”

Mitch and John have passed something, things like gas and hairballs.


53 posted on 08/12/2015 7:40:27 PM PDT by dforest
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To: markomalley
Outsiders take over GOP
Uh huh. And who got that ball rolling? Cruz, Walker, Rubio, Perry or 11 others? NO. It was Trump and Trump alone. The others, other than Carson, are just phony hangers on or establishment stooges.
54 posted on 08/12/2015 7:41:11 PM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: markomalley

Bottom line is that the Republicans either accept the fact that the game has changed and start to deliver or they go the way of the Whigs and simply cease to exist. I no longer call myself a Republican - I call myself a “conservative,”. More and more of the Republican base is simply removing themselves from the Republican label.


55 posted on 08/12/2015 7:53:07 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: markomalley
"It’s a civil war and the GOP as it’s constructed may not survive.”

 Mackowiak says GOP candidates need to realize how angry the base is with its elected GOP leadership." “They’re saying that Obama has failed, they’re not saying that GOP leadership has failed. That’s not the message the base is sending.”

The hell that's not the message- Obama is an Epic Failed President, Boehner is a Epic Failed Speaker, and McConnell is an Epic Failed Senate Majority Leader. And the GOPe is worthless, and abysmally stupid.

56 posted on 08/12/2015 7:55:58 PM PDT by matthew fuller (When do the minarets and outhouse moon go up on the White Mosque?)
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To: markomalley
But for now, the anti-establishment wing of the GOP is on the upswing.

yeah...soooo...the TEA party....

57 posted on 08/12/2015 8:00:01 PM PDT by uncitizen ("When a liberal speaks, a liberal is lying" - Mark Levin)
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To: markomalley

Others think Republican voters will eventually coalesce around a more traditional GOP candidate

I think this is the election where they’re going to find out many of us will not accept anymore rinos and will stay home rather than vote for one.


58 posted on 08/12/2015 8:41:46 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: VRWCarea51
"Make no mistake this little turd is McConnell’s Bitch. He made his bed aligning with him in the Kentucky Primary and supporting the RINO dirty tricks in Mississippi

FURP"

AMEN!

59 posted on 08/12/2015 8:42:38 PM PDT by matthew fuller (When do the minarets and outhouse moon go up on the White Mosque?)
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To: Lionheartusa1

Boehner , McConnell and all the estabs need to retire and let someone with a spine take over .

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They have plenty of spine when it comes to fighting Conservatives.


60 posted on 08/12/2015 8:55:59 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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