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Dems near Clinton panic mode
The Hill ^ | August 13, 2015 | Niall Stanage and Kevin Cirilli

Posted on 08/13/2015 4:02:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats are worried that the furor over Hillary Clinton’s private email server will be prolonged and intensified after her sudden move to hand it to the FBI.

The Clinton campaign’s decision to give up the server and a thumb-drive containing back-up copies of emails left Democrats scratching their heads as to why the former secretary of State had resisted turning over the server for months.

Coupled with new polls that suggest Clinton is vulnerable, Democrats are nearing full-on panic mode.

“I’m not sure they completely understand the credibility they are losing, by the second,” said one Democratic strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “At some point this goes from being something you can rationalize away to something that becomes political cancer. And we are getting pretty close to the cancer stage, because this is starting to get ridiculous.”

“Look, this is a classic example of the cover-up being ten times worse than the so-called crime — though in this case there wasn't a crime,” said another progressive strategist.

“The culture of secrecy that has surrounded the Clintons — understandably in some cases — has now yielded a situation where she did something that wasn't necessary and looks nefarious.”

The former secretary of State remains the odds-on favorite the win the party’s presidential nomination. But the pattern seen in the email controversy — months of stonewalling followed by an eventual concession — has stoked worries about her flaws as a candidate.

The slew of unimpressive poll numbers is exacerbating the situation. Some have shown slippage against her main left-wing rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Others have indicated her losing swing states against possible Republican opponents. Still others have revealed continuing weakness in her ratings on trustworthiness and favorability.

Hank Sheinkopf, a New York-based Democratic strategist who has worked with Clinton in the past but is not doing so in this campaign, argued that the general suspicion that the former secretary of State is concealing something is much more damaging than the specifics of the email matter.

“It’s hard to imagine Americans in the heartland wondering about whether Hillary Clinton gave up an email server or not,” he said. “But [it adds to] this constant battering she's taking, which is that people don’t trust her. It increases the feeling that something is not being told to them.”

Joe Trippi, who served as campaign manager for Howard Dean’s 2004 presidential bid, concurred.

“The thing that’s hurt has been losing the ground she’s lost on trustworthiness and honesty. It’s on trust, not on the specifics of emails or anything like that,” he said.

A new Franklin Pierce University poll from New Hampshire on Tuesday showed Clinton losing to Sanders by seven percentage points in the Granite State. Another survey from the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling (PPP), also released Tuesday, indicated Clinton getting the worse of hypothetical match-ups with four separate Republican opponents in the swing state of Iowa, which President Obama won in both 2008 and 2012.

The margins in all those polls were within the margins of error. But the same cannot be said of findings indicating voter skepticism about Clinton personally.

The PPP poll showed 52 percent of Iowans holding an unfavorable view of Clinton and only 38 percent holding a favorable view. In a Quinnipiac University poll released at the end of last month, a clear majority of voters nationwide said they did not consider the former secretary of State honest or trustworthy — 57 percent to 37 percent. It was only the latest finding that indicated deep trouble for Clinton on that issue.

Still, Clinton's most adamant supporters insist she has done nothing wrong.

“Everybody is just looking for a ‘gotcha’ moment,” said long-time Clinton loyalist Lanny Davis. “They're ignoring what the inspector general said, which is that there was not one single accusation of wrongdoing alleged against Hillary Clinton and her use of email.”

The Clinton campaign and its allies are also pushing back hard at their critics. The campaign’s communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, sent a mass email to supporters Wednesday, warning that “you might hear some news over the next few days about Hillary Clinton's emails.”

The Palmieri email went on to assert that there was “a lot of misinformation” around the issue, that “Hillary has remained absolutely committed to cooperating” and that “this kind of nonsense comes with the territory of running for president.”

Separately, Media Matters for America — the liberal watchdog group founded by Clinton ally David Brock — sent out a statement under the subject-line “Myths and Facts about Hillary Clinton’s email.” The first fact it listed was that “none of the emails sent to Clinton were labeled as classified or top secret.”

But concerned Democrats keep coming back to the same question: Why did the Clinton campaign not simply hand over the private server when the controversy first erupted in March?

“It’s bizarre,” said the Democratic strategist. “Let me give you some simple strategic communications advice: Put everything out first, on your terms. If you wait, or you are forced to do it, you always lose and look bad…That is exactly what is happening here, and I find it inexplicable.”

Clinton’s problems are stoking speculation that another candidate could, even now, get into the Democratic race. The two most-often cited potential contenders are Vice President Biden and progressive icon Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). Others suggested that Sanders could expand his support even further.

Robert Borosage, co-director of the liberal Campaign For America's Future, said that while Clinton remains “very popular amongst Democrats,” there remains an opening for another Democratic alternative to emerge.

“If Hillary continues to sink in the polls and is beleaguered by all of this stuff, there will be more and more interest in other candidates — including and not limited to Sanders,” Borosage said.

Charles Chamberlain, executive director of the progressive Democracy for America, said that liberals believe Republicans are amplifying the issue. Still, he argued that Sanders appears to be exciting the Democratic base more than Clinton.

“Sanders is holding huge events with big crowds and engaging in a two-way conversation with voters — these are things Clinton isn't doing,” Chamberlain said.

Even if Clinton is vulnerable, she remains the overwhelming favorite to win the Democratic nomination.

Trippi said another Democrat might well get into the race, but that beating Clinton was a very different proposition.

“I don’t think Joe Biden has given up on his desire to run for president and I’m sure there are others out there who want to get into this race. I just don’t see a path yet for how you get to the nomination,” he said.

Trippi also raised the issue of whether a more left-wing candidate such as Warren could end up making a Clinton coronation more likely, rather than less likely, given that she would almost certainly divide the progressive vote with Sanders.

“Why is he now going to bow and curtsy to Elizabeth Warren?” Trippi asked. “And if he isn’t going to move aside, doesn’t she actually divide that 30 or 40 percent?”

That leaves many Democrats in a painful place: believing that, in the end, Clinton will be the nominee but worrying that her vulnerabilities could negate the many advantages — from demographics to the electoral college map — that they believe the party nominee should enjoy.

The progressive strategist wondered “how much longer this drip, drip, drip” of controversy surrounding the emails would continue.

“There's a hesitance that emerges in terms of her trustworthiness,” the source said. “At some point, people will start to ask whether this hurts her electability in the general election.”

Sheinkopf insisted that, at a minimum, the Clinton campaign needed to set aside any set of complacency.

“There are no guarantees. The ship has to get righted. You need to deal with the email issue very differently, by tackling it head-on.”

How confident is he that such a direct approach will be adopted?

“Fifty-fifty, at best,” he replied.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2016; clinton; emails; hillary
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1 posted on 08/13/2015 4:02:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Look, this is a classic example of the cover-up being ten times worse than the so-called crime — though in this case there wasn't a crime,” said another progressive strategist.

So having TOP Secret classified emails with information derived from spy satellites on a private server is not a crime?

3 posted on 08/13/2015 4:09:24 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
scratching their heads as to why the former secretary of State had resisted turning over the server for months.

Are they really that dumb?

4 posted on 08/13/2015 4:10:13 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Our girl Hillary did some very bad things concerning Libya.

Things so bad that she was afraid to let her co-workers in the government know about them.

She had to have her own privately financed spy operation in Libya because she was doing something so bad that she couldn’t let her government co-workers know what she was looking for.

What was she after in Libya?

Qadaffi’s fortune.


5 posted on 08/13/2015 4:21:47 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Clinton campaign’s decision to give up the server and a thumb-drive containing back-up copies of emails left Democrats scratching their heads as to why the former secretary of State had resisted turning over the server for months.< /I>

oh, they know why. We all know why. The dems just won't admit it.

6 posted on 08/13/2015 4:23:34 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Look, this is a classic example of the cover-up being ten times worse than the so-called crime — though in this case there wasn't a crime,” said another progressive strategist.

Oh, I do believe there was.

7 posted on 08/13/2015 4:23:49 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (the left has redefined the word 'racism' to mean any disagreement with any liberal about any topic)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We need to keep Clinton is the race as long as possible...meanwhile, need to start attacking all her potential replacements.


8 posted on 08/13/2015 4:25:26 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the cover-up being ten times worse than the so-called crime — though in this case there wasn't a crime,” said another progressive strategist

They'll keep saying that until the jury comes in. That's how they roll.

9 posted on 08/13/2015 4:28:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: sf4dubya
Make no mistake, Dems will turn out in droves to vote for the criminal Clinton. They’re concern trolling now but they’ll forget about the email server thing in six months just in time for the caucuses.

Biden is going to run and he will overtake her and Bernie Sanders the MSM knows Clinton is vulnerable and that Bernie Sanders will never win a national election. They will bend over backwards to prop up Old Joe through out all his blunders during the campaign.

10 posted on 08/13/2015 4:30:40 AM PDT by stig
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To: Jim Noble

“Look, this is a classic example of the cover-up being ten times worse than the so-called crime — though in this case there wasn’t a crime,” .......

If there was NO crime, why the need for a cover-up?

GUILTY!!!!!! Hang her.


11 posted on 08/13/2015 4:32:33 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But concerned Democrats keep coming back to the same question: Why did the Clinton campaign not simply hand over the private server when the controversy first erupted in March?

Yeah, it's a real mystery all right.

12 posted on 08/13/2015 4:33:18 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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Well, now Fox News is reporting that someone at State had removed classified markings from emails sent to Hillary's private account. That's their next line of defense, and they have been laying its groundwork all week. So expect them to try and blame some mid-level State Department staffer, who was probably following orders from on high, for Hillary not knowing that what she was receiving was classified.

Pure BS, but that's how the Clinton's roll.

14 posted on 08/13/2015 4:34:16 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hank Sheinkopf, a New York-based Democratic strategist...

“It’s hard to imagine Americans in the heartland wondering about whether Hillary Clinton gave up an email server or not,”

You have a hard time imagining us being able to feed ourselves and build shelter, too.

15 posted on 08/13/2015 4:39:10 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Courtesy phone for Trump! Please pick up the white courtesy phone Mr Trump.

Pray America is waking


16 posted on 08/13/2015 4:41:04 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the White House)
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To: Timber Rattler
Removing the classification markings is a felony. Don't expect that person to take the fall by themselves for a felony.

The only question is will the justice department pursue it or not.

17 posted on 08/13/2015 4:42:38 AM PDT by DB
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

her sudden move to hand it to the FBI

Why does the media keep reporting it like she willingly handed her server over to the FBI? It was court ordered. She had no choice!


18 posted on 08/13/2015 4:46:53 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Chris Stevens won't be running for president.)
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To: sf4dubya

He’d have to be led there because he’d never find it on his own.


19 posted on 08/13/2015 4:50:29 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: blueunicorn6
What was she after in Libya?

Qadaffi’s fortune.

Wouldn't that have been in Switzerland?

20 posted on 08/13/2015 4:52:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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