Posted on 08/13/2015 1:53:34 PM PDT by Dacula
It said I agreed with Jebbie 90% and that is pure BS.
Cruz and Rubio at about 95%, HOWEVER ...
I’ll take Trump (77%). Why -> because at this point I believe 90% of 77% is better than 65% of 95%.
In other words -> which will actually be more effective, not have their hands tied, transform the country is a crucial factor in ‘what they will actually accomplish.’
And, I’m among those who is willing to accept the possible mess that Trump could make. A disorganized mess is better than the knotted-mess right now that can’t be untied. I don’t see Cruz or any of the others as being capable of changing the course of this massive freighter. To me, it’s that Yatzee time when it’s your 3rd roll and you just throw all the crap back in the cup an roll it all, because, it can’t be worse.
Could Cruz really turn the ship, no matter how right he is about almost everything? He will still have congress to deal with, and the country’s establishment in general. Only Trump is virtually totally un-beholden to it. Maybe they’d both stare it down -> but in a real fight, would Cruz win?
As some have mentioned - I suspect Rubio’s campaign is weighted in his favor probably just because it’s not that scientific ... this is just comparing a bunch of numbers against some arbitrary excel spreadsheet subjectively assigned values and then loaded into a database.
It’d be much easier for Cruz to get things passed than Trump. Trump’s negatives are so high that it’d be much easier for the opposition to demonize him as being crazy or outrageous and laugh off his proposals.
Trump is also much more likely to cave into public pressure or polling, because his principles are not rock-solid and long-held, as he showed when letting a transsexual into his beauty pageant after initially saying it wouldn’t happen.
Cruz will rigidly stick to his principles and can more easily convince the public to get on board by addressing the public in a soft-spoken but firm manner, just as Ronald Reagan did.
I would say both of them would be equally likely to veto bad legislation coming from their own party.
Cruz.
My results were pretty close to yours except a couple of points lower on the top two except Carson was above Jeb Bush. . . Carson and I agreed more on Obamacare. . . and Donald Trump and Scott Walker were both at 77%. Down at the bottom it was Sanders 15%, Hillary 13% and that other guy, O'Malley, at 7%. . .
The rest I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw the lot of them.
Apparently I side with Bush, although I have always preferred Cruz.
Your ideology...
Right-Wing Libertarian
Your political beliefs would be considered strongly Right-Wing and moderately Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote free market capitalism and smaller government.
I side with Ted Cruz on most 2016 Presidential Election issues
Candidates you side with...
94%
Ted Cruz
93%
Marco Rubio
91%
Rick Santorum
89%
Jeb Bush
87%
Scott Walker
84%
Rick Perry
84%
Rand Paul
81%
Ben Carson
80%
Mike Huckabee
77%
Lindsey Graham
76%
Donald Trump
70%
Carly Fiorina
70%
Bobby Jindal
67%
Chris Christie
59%
John Kasich
13%
Hillary Clinton
2%
Martin O’Malley
1%
Bernie Sanders
The mature sober part of me agrees ... but I don’t think anything other than a paradigm change in the way the citizens of the country VIEW our country will turn things around.
When I say what I said, I’m talking about Cruz’s ability to move the citizens of the country - not his ability to move legislation.
If Cruz is elected, we will experience some, and perhaps slightly significant, movement in the current idiocy and self destructiveness of the CITIZENS of the nation.
Here’s another way of putting it: If you want to stop a herd of lemmings from running off a cliff, you don’t reason with them, however well, about the mathematics of their course. You’re past that. You best chance is to drop a bomb in the middle of the herd, completely throw chaos into the mentality, and hope that it settles on almost any different course.
If all Trump does as a president is ‘get stuff passed’, even as well as Cruz might, then nothing has changed.
That would be the idea on which I would base support for Trump. Someone needs to seriously mess with the lemmings minds, because that’s how they got to be where they are.
The current stampede towards a cliff is not based on an inertial created by reason. So the stampede won’t be turned back by it. The stampede was given speed and momentum mass hypnosis. Cruz can’t undo that - the guy is about as EMOTIONALLY inspiring as ... Bob Dole ... even though he’s 300 times the Patriot and brain.
Trump, whether you call it a virtue or not, can create a cultish atmosphere. He does care about the country. I’m not part of the cult, but I look at the Lemmings and say “our immediate problem is the direction and speed of the lemmings, what force can change that fast enough that they don’t reach the cliff, and maybe, once the direction is changed, they can be put under more sober forces again like reason and love for the ideas in the Constitution, of our founders’
Can Cruz make this country fall back in love with itself, give it’s pride back? I say no - that he can’t affect that change. You? Me? Sure - we’re already proud of America, so we resonate with him. But if he wins, all we get is half the country pining for 4 years later when maybe Lizzy Warren runs.
Can Trump? Maybe. Trump is UNREASONABLE. His unspoken motto is something like “F*ck it, we’ll find a way.” That’s what turns things around for teams at half time - a complete break in the thought pattern - tapping into pride and ‘F*ck it.’
When things are headed in the right direction again ... is when you want sober leadership to strengthen the new direction.
If you don’t believe it’s half time in football and we’re down 57 to 3, then you might be more ‘reasonable’ than I’m being. I think we’re down 57 to 3 at halftime, and too many think we’re down 31 to 21 or something and we’ve got this great rusher Cruz. This country needs a turn around coach, and the turn around will be based on emotion, not sound reasoning.
All of us here - we are ‘right’ about everything. Our positions are solid, backed by history, well reasoned, coherent, cogent, and would work beautifully if the rest of the team based their actions on reason and good sense. How long, though, have we been right? And what has happened during all that time we’ve been right? The founders began this country at a time when, ethically or not, the vote was mostly in the hands of those with a stake in the outcome of the country. That’s no longer true.
Can Cruz make people align their personal choices (responsibility, how they vote) with the outcome of the country as well as the outcome for themselves?
Right now, the numbers are telling who is affecting people, making them think. You can’t deny that Trump is the most effective of the candidates when it comes to what’s above. You also can’t deny that if we base the choice on ‘what works’ rather than ‘what is right’, Trump wins. As capitalists, free market people first, not government people first -> Trump has the better scorecard.
I am not advocating for Trump on this site - NOT ONE BIT. I’m not even as convinced of what I’m saying as the force with which I’m saying it -> for now -> I’m just observing. But the ideas behind what I’m saying - the arguments - they can not be overlooked. Trump is the most effective candidate out there (and of course right now we’re only in a popularity contest, not a governing one).
But pride is the most important factor in a people, unless it’s a total false pride. Trump’s pride in America is not false. There’s nothing saying he can’t be the coach, cheerleader, knee basher, deal maker, while surrounding himself with the best policy makers.
Mostly - thinking out loud. That’s what I’ve been thinking.
Not going to proofread this ... bedtime! ... I’m sure there is some stupid spelling error that makes at least one sentence not be what I meant. If you see one ... please assume I meant what fits the context :-). I totally get your point, and it’s totally valid and perhaps what I’m saying in theory is nice but would be a disaster. Not yet convinced either way.
Wow. this was an eye opener for me.
Little did I know I am a Rubio man. Cruz is 4th. but Trump is not as far down as I expected.
The test is flawed however. Some of the candidates did not answer a LOT of the questions.
Ted
Poll is rigged, it came up with Jeb the RINO for me. And I answered all questions as a strong conservative. Cruz came up second.
I think that poll is bunk. I answered it the first time, using all “other answer” responses to get as specific as possible, as it gave me Rand Paul at 89% and Ted Cruz at 84%. Ok, I can see that, although I do not trust Rand Paul and Cruz is my man.
So, I decided to take it again and just use yes/no answers, and not get so specific, and it came up with Rubio 91%, Rand 90%, Rick Santorum 90%, Rick Perry 88% and then Cruz at 88%.
Whatever....I know where Cruz stands and I also feel he is the most trustworthy, reliable man of his word, candidate, compared to all others.
I wonder if people taking this, see where Trump lands. Cuz he’s down by Bernie Sander and Hillary Clinton. That should tell ya somethin.
I got Rubio, too, followed by Perry, Bush, then Cruz. This questionnaire is a joke.
Wow! Cruz it is!
Someone should go through the survey and answer everything like the are Karl Marx and post the results.
It would be fun to see who is at the top and at the bottom of that.
Is Rubio behind this poll? He’s no conservative. He is a RINO.
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