Posted on 08/13/2015 7:29:51 PM PDT by Roos_Girl
I wanted to use our time tonight to directly deal with an attack launched on me today by the left and the media. A couple questions came in on this subject, so I want to address it head on.
Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true. The study they distributed by an anonymous source was done in 1992. The study was about tumors. I won’t bore you with the science. There were four doctors' names on the study. One was mine. I spent my life studying brain tumors and removing them. My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.
I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.
I am sickened by the attack that I, after having spent my entire life caring for children, had something to do with aborting a child and harvesting organs. My medical specialty is the human brain and even I am amazed at what it is capable of doing. Please know these attacks are pathetic attempts to blunt our progress.
Like I said before the Bushes have been pro-abortion for years. The Sanger letter is not doctored.
Even now the Bushes, to include “Catholic” Jeb, believes it’s fine to murder babies if he does like who the father as, as in cases of rape and incest. That is also little George’s position. But both have always said how “pro-life” they are. They’re not pro-life, they are selective pro-life, depending on how the baby was conceived. I mention Jeb’s position because his position on abortion is in direct violation of the Catholic Church. He’s throws the Church under the bus for political expediency. George W. Bush also appointed more openly homosexuals to his administration than any president before him, including Bill Clinton. Here’s a picture showing grinning Laura Bush as an openly sodomite is sworn in as the Global Aids Coordinator, with his “partner” holding the Bible.
“So what?”
I was attempting to correct the misperceptions on this thread that aborted fetal tissue was not used.
Dear Ben,
You need a strong stomach and an asbestos suit if you want to run for POTUS for the right reasons and against the popular politically-correct (veiled tyranny possessed by the spirit of anti-christ) culture. They will try to savage you.
Take a lesson from Donald Trump, who isn’t afraid of people, fights back, and moves on. Don’t be sick, just fight back and move on and realize that the fight for freedom is eternal and worthwhile.
Love,
America
What he didn’t call anyone names? Trump needs to take lessons.
No. He didn’t. From what I understand, he sent the researchers doing the research some brain tumor samples taken from his patients and his own research and papers on brain tumors which was quoted in this paper and as such he was listed as a contributor to this paper.
”My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.”
“I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.”
People donate their bodies to science and also their aborted tissue. Miscarriages are called spontaneous abortions.
The pathologist using that tissue is doing his job, he’s not the one promoting or condoning how he/she got the tissue. Otherwise, that would be like saying, doctors who transplant organs of people who die in a drunk driving car crash, are responsible and condoning drunk driving.
Those two posts above by FR_addict and Lucky9teen make some good points.
It is not all that unusual for patients or their next of kin if death occurs, to consent to their biopsies and tissue samples being donated for medical research and some people bequeath their bodies after death to medical research or to be used to teach medical students anatomy and how to perform autopsies – something I am actually considering for myself. And some couples also consent to such similar donations when they miscarry (what is technically and medically called a spontaneous abortion) or if their baby dies because of a tubular pregnancy. And yes some women who have elective abortions consent to fetal tissue donations, perhaps in a way to assuage their guilt, but probably in the case of PP, they may have had no idea what was really happening and the gruesomeness and profit motive involved and thank goodness for those videos bringing it to light.
In early 1996 my mother died from Acute Idiopathic Pancreatitis. She was otherwise healthy and had no prior episodes of pancreatitis, was not a drinker or smoker, did not have gall stones or cancer as the autopsy proved, but spent two weeks in the ICU at Johns Hopkins hospital on full life support and on kidney dialysis, most nearly all of that time in a coma as the poisons/toxins coming out of her pancreas literally started shutting down her other organs and flowing through her blood stream, eventually shutting down her brain. The doctors and nurses did everything medically and humanly possible to save her life, rather heroically from what I saw, but at the end of those two weeks, with our consent she was removed from life support as it had become hopeless as all her organs had shut down or as one doctor described, the acids and toxins pumping out of her pancreas and gall bladder had literally liquefied the surrounding organs and she was declared brain dead.
The day before she was removed from life support, the team of doctors treating her asked us, my father and my brother and I if we would consent to an autopsy and donation of some of her pancreatic tissues as they were puzzled as to the quick onset and severity of her case and felt that perhaps what they might learn from her case, could further research that would ultimate help to save lives of similar patients and even those with pancreatic cancer in the future. They assured us that post autopsy, that her body would be released to the funeral home and that there would be no visible signs, no reason for not having an open casket viewing and told us that we could if we wanted it, could have a copy of the autopsy report and their findings. We talked about it and as a family and knowing what a kind and generous person my mother was, we consented. I would not be surprised if over 10 years later, her tissue slides and samples are still being used in medical research not only at Johns Hopkins but perhaps at other medical research facilities all across the country or the world.
That sort of thing however is a far cry from what PP is doing in performing abortions (which is bad enough) and then performing them in such a way as to make selling the parts very profitable for them.
But that is not to say that all fetal tissue samples come from PP or even that all come from elective abortions.
The left is the media.
Whoa, look at this: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/planned-parenthood-fetal-tissue-company-cuts-ties-videos-121371.html#ixzz3iowGwSEm
I’m no fan of Jeb, but who the hell cares? I’d hate to be judged by the political views and actions of some of my relatives.
Glad to see his response. The other story had bothered me and I am glad to see that it simply was not true.
Here here! Well said sir.
In reference to your comment, saw a sign in a restaurant window a few days back. It said “Hillary won’t be running after all. Her proctologist just performed a colonoscopy and found a brain tumor”
lol
I’m no fan of Jeb, but who the hell cares? I’d hate to be judged by the political views and actions of some of my relatives.
Jeb has as much chance of being elected President as Barney Fife does being appointed Director of the FBI...
WAIT... didnt that already happen?..
Loretta Lynch is Atty General of the Justice Department in charge of ALL LYNCHINGS..
WHO Knows... limiting the stupidity of public school graduates is a gross error..
Silly as it is limiting the sillyness of YALE graduates..
I mean... really, what do they feed those people..?
I have no idea what this rant is about. My point was it’s stupid to talk about Prescott Bush’s views and actions to somehow try to politically indict Jeb. He has enough record of his own to be judged on.
My point was it’s stupid to talk about Prescott Bush’s views
You have your “point”.......
I have mine.. to me any talk of a Bush or other Shrubs is wasted effort..
Soo I offered cogent content.. SUE ME...
At present I’m all in for Big D, But ......
Black, no experience. We tried that. Didn’t work.
How about White, no experience
Mr. Trump is a great businessman as sure as Dr. Carson is a great brain specialist. Not a lot of difference IMHO.
At first blush, this appears a very racist statement, especially in today’s “perpetually offended” atmosphere.
But, I tend to look at hosepipe’s post as indicative of what American politics has devolved to; Win or go home. Governing is not the goal...only winning is and the winner will take of governing as best he/she can.
Since, in hosepipe’s estimation, another candidate of color -in either party- cannot “bring home the trophy”, he will not vote for a candidate of color. Again, it is a mentality of “win at all costs and let the resulting chips fall where they may”.
Ask yourself, why is Brady being so well [pun unintended] protected by his fans?
Allen West and Obama have one thing he common: their dark skin...
To equate him in any other way is wrong and borders on racism...
To put it another way, if West was the nominee and Romney had won over Obama, in 2012, the color of his skin would be a factor in voting for him in 2016 ?
Correct me if I am wrong....I hope I am...
Since, in hosepipe’s estimation, another candidate of color -in either party- cannot “bring home the trophy”, he will not vote for a candidate of color. Again, it is a mentality of “win at all costs and let the resulting chips fall where they may”.
No... that isn’t “ IT “ at all... not my intention or invective..
WHAT I meant was: The entire Black(as it were) CULTURE is Poisonous.. Toxic.. Flawed.. Infected.. Compromised..
From “Fro” to “kicks”.. from brotha’ to sista’.. from toddler to Old black Joe.. from the tip of Maine to the bottom of the Aleutians..
The Black Culture is Screwed UP.. prisoners of socialism.. uneducated.. coddled.. socially unstable.. drugged.. criminal.. from tea kettle to Bong.. public school to academe’.. from Washington D.C. to Compton..
Until it can be recovered (to some extent) IF IT CAN BE...
NO MORE BLACK OFFICIALS for me.. from mulatto to jet black.. from Fro to baldness.. from Barry Obama to Col. West.. Bill Clinton to Bill Cosby.. from the Trump girl’s to Thomas Sowell..
Did I mention the Black Culture is POISONOUS?.. and I am NOT AMUSED..
I don’t HATE blacks or despised them.. ALL
But I reserve my freedom to despise any BLACK I deem worthy, as I do WHITES, Asians, and Beaners..
So-called White culture or even UNblack Culture’s.. are effected severely by American Black Contagion..
UNTIL and not until black’s generally drop the “black monitor” and resume being just Americans.. I’m done with them..
I tolerate some black friends but am suspicious of them..
as I am some of my white relative’s... the toxic racial climate was not invented by Barry Sotero he just ENHANCED IT.. GREATLY.. but then I’m suspicious of many FREEPERS as well..
there you have like it....... OR NOT..
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