7 ways the latest Fox poll is the Republican establishment's worst nightmare

Vox ^ | August 17, 2015 | Matthew Yglesias, Liberal American writer

[TomGuy]

I think everyone is getting sick and tired of “sounds good!”

That, and "looks presidential."

[unsycophant]

I’ve come across three separate articles this morning already, identifying “hardcore conservatives” as the ones who will bring Trump down and wrangle the GOP into line.

All three authors do exactly (exactly!) what you describe. Throw out biases in the form of name-calling, then write around the bias with theory to support.

Each author identifies himself as a “real” or “hardcore” conservative, and apparently believes it’s his mission to “expose the real Donald Trump” to the rest of us.

It’s total lefty thinking.

[Patton@Bastogne]

hey ... it worked for Elmer Gantry ... why not the “Huckster” ?

[LS]

Cuz he doesn’t look like Burt Lancaster?

[Carthego delenda est]

“Throwing in bias in the form of adjectives unsupported by the raw data — i.e. “fantastically” unlikely — is an only slightly more subtle form of yellow journalism than outright name-calling.”

Yeah, slightly more subtle than saying “He’s unelectable.”

[richardskeet]

Let me guess...
Trump is dominating, but can’t win.
Isn’t this story getting stale?

[SamAdams76]

So Trump's polling numbers are triple that of establishment choice ¿Jeb? Bush and it's Trump that "can't win."

This is a case of the establishment Republicans trying to turn a fervent wish into reality by lying about the facts over and over again. It's like they are closing their eyes, covering their ears and chanting "He can't win; he can't win; he can't win" over and over again like a small child that doesn't want to face reality.

My Twitter results below, updated through yesterday at noon, bear out that non-traditional candidates are getting huge growth in Twitter followers while the establishment candidates are by and large flat in Twitter follower growth. What does that mean? It basically means that the establishment candidates are generating little to no excitement out there.

Name	Twitter Handle	8/1/2015	8/15/2015	MTD Gain
Donald Trump	@realDonaldTrump	3,409,127	3,728,446	319,319
Ben Carson	@RealBenCarson	393,107	490,835	97,728
Carly Fiorina	@CarlyFiorina	384,524	453,085	68,561
Marco Rubio	@marcorubio	772,150	816,938	44,788
Ted Cruz	@tedcruz	443,426	471,349	27,923
¿Jeb Bush	@JebBush	239,197	266,089	26,892
Scott Walker	@ScottWalker	167,564	190,613	23,049
John Kasich	@JohnKasich	80,497	97,362	16,866
Rand Paul	@RandPaul	654,136	669,697	15,561
Rick Perry	@GovernorPerry	305,523	312,701	7,178
Bobby Jindal	@BobbyJindal	203,428	209,695	6,267
Rick Santorum	@RickSantorum	236,439	239,817	3,378
Chris Christie	@ChrisChristie	40,234	42,282	2,048
Linda Graham	@LindseyGrahamSC	23,043	24,200	1,157
Mike Huckabee	@MikeHuckabeeGOP	0	849	849
Jim Gilmore	@gov_gilmore	356	985	629
George Pataki	@Gpataki2016	0	498	498

[Leep]

Bush 9% :(

When will America learn?

[Sir Napsalot]

That was the sentences that jumped out at me, too.

Too funny, those guys really think themselves objective journalists.

[Amntn]

I read an article this morning, that I can’t find now, that said Trump’s actual numbers are probably higher than what is being published because of who is being polled.

[RetiredArmy]

Maybe it because Christians trust another Christian more than they trust a bunch of RINO’s, Bush, Trump, etc. Cruz is the best one of the group. But, then again didn’t the republicans win the Congress on promises to stop Obama, yet when they got the majority, they only gave Obama more of a majority to get away with his unlawful acts? The so called speaker of the House is basically a dimocrat and ole Mitch is also as they endorse everything Obama wants. So, why should Christian not trust the Hulk? Maybe they see him as one who might actually keep his word. The grand majority of the others certainly will not. Their actions in the past few months have proven that in Congress. I told my local congress-critter that he was dangerously close to losing our votes and not voting for his position at all, because I will not vote for a dim. He collects his pay check and I never see him out front, speaking, leading, etc. and I TOLD him that. I said do something beside collect a pay check.

[tbw2]

Pandering to illegal immigrants doesn’t help recent immigrant voters if they realize adding new immigrants costs the recent ones their jobs.

[BO Stinkss]

Did you know that Kasich’s dad was a mailman. Wow...

[2ndDivisionVet]

My dad was a retired Marine and a warehouseman. What was/is your dad?

[BO Stinkss]

Did you know that Kasich’s dad was a mailman? Wow...

[BO Stinkss]

Retired Chief Master Sergent

[2ndDivisionVet]

Why polls likely miss size of Trump’s support
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3325545/posts

[Amntn]

Thanks. That’s it.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Air Force, huh? Mine was a Gunnery Sergeant (Commo Chief) in the Marines. World War II, Korea and early Vietnam.

[LS]

I think you're right. You know, when Mormons circle the wagons to protect another Mormon there is great outcry, but when non-Mormons do so, it's viewed as ok.

My problem with trying to attach a religious component to any politician is that in the Bible God constantly used people who wouldn't measure up to our modern "holier-then-thous." Moses was a murderer, David an adulterer who sent his girlfriend's husband off to be killed, Saul was in charge of persecutions and murders, Peter was an egotistical liar, James and John were power hungry, and so on. Yet God chooses these and other "losers" to make His point. So far from needing an outspoken, self-delcared born again politician, I think I will trust God to raise up His guy and meanwhile vote for the guy who most appeals to my political and cultural sensibilities.