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To: BRL

I would make these four observations (I actually live in Germany):

1. Within 25 years, if they don’t do immigration...the population of Germany will sink from 80 million to around 65 million (university study from spring of this year did the data). Political folks are looking at the jobs, pension, social structure and generally agree immigration will have no choice but occur.

2. If you looked at a cohesive refugee/immigration program....this is a marginal two-star program and been dumped down to the state level rather than run by the German federal gov’t. Aggravated locals are upset about the price tag and the growing numbers (they will hit one million for 2015, if the trend continues).

3. National elections are fall of 2017, but several state elections will occur before that point, and there’s some feelings that right-wing elements will win and push the top five parties down a notch. Presently, if you wrote up the top three campaign issues or hot topics...pension reform, the economy and corruption are way down on the list....while immigration and refugees are probably top chat subject (something not of the political guys like and national media won’t discuss).

4. Robbery and crime....are on the increase, but have nothing to do with the refugee/immigration crowd. That’s the amusing part of the story. There are a large segment of folks from Bulgaria and Romania who are roaming the country and stealing cars left and right. Everyone knows someone who has been robbed over the past couple of years. My next door neighbor had the car parked out front of the house and they took it (five year old Audi).


11 posted on 08/17/2015 10:45:03 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
The success of the European welfare state is predicated upon the kind of solidarity one finds in a society that is mono-ethic and mono-cultural.

It was put into effect to stem the rise of illiberal political radicals (i.e., Nazis and Communists), not out of some purported, higher "moral consciousness" as its proponents pretend.

Remove the mono-ethnic and mono-cultural underpinning and weaken the welfare state through mass immigration, and Surprise! the political violence it was intended to solve re-emerges.

Germany can have political peace and a welfare state; or, it can have mass immigration. Given its history, it cannot have both.

13 posted on 08/17/2015 11:05:28 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: pepsionice
“4. Robbery and crime....are on the increase, but have nothing to do with the refugee/immigration crowd.”

I was stationed in suburbs of Karlsruhe in the 80’s. We were warned to never go into town without buddies because of the Turk “refugees.” Problems between Germans and Yank soldiers were very rare, Turks, not so much. I can't imagine how bad it is now.

30 posted on 08/17/2015 2:41:00 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: pepsionice

...the population of Germany will sink from 80 million to around 65 million (university study from spring of this year did the data). Political folks are looking at the jobs, pension, social structure and generally agree immigration will have no choice but occur.
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31 posted on 08/17/2015 2:57:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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