Posted on 08/18/2015 1:34:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Small businesses are already struggling to survive the spate of minimum wage increases to $15 per hour in parts of California.
Last month, the small Bay Area town of Emeryville, California, (population 10,000) decided to act as flag-bearer for raising the minimum wage in California, hiking its minimum wage to $14.44 per hour.
Even though businesses with less than 56 workers are exempt from the $14.44 rate and do not have to raise their wages to $15 until 2018, Vic Gumper, who owns Lanesplitter Pizza, with outlets in Berkeley, Oakland, Albany and Emeryville, decided not only to bite the bullet but swallow it, paying his workers $15 to $25 an hour while eschewing tips or raising prices.
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And that my FRiend, is why you have the idiotic idea that you have.
I guarantee you that employers pay the UI tax. Ask any employer here at FR.
I am an employer. And I will tell you right now, that the "Employer Contribution" to Social Security, UI, vacation, sick leave, healthcare, and any other "perk" you can name, ARE ALL paid BY THE EMPLOYEE.
When I offer a position, it isn't based on salary, it's based on the total [fully loaded] cost of employing someone. Every dime that I am forced by the government to pay comes directly out of the pool of money I have to compensate employees. EVERY SINGLE DIME.
And any employer who tells you any differently is a liar, and any employee who thinks he is "getting over" on his employer by having the state force the employer to "pay his benefits" is a moron.
Believe me, everyone else does, too. They’re just too stupid to understand why.
“The government does not have the right to set an hourly pay rate.”
It takes away your right to freely contract.
You are right on. How much does it actually cost per hour to employ someone at $15 an hour? Just guessing I would say it must be close to$25.
I have either been an employer or self-employed for longer than that, and if you actually believe what you've posted here, you are a fool who needs to sell out and retire.
If you want to know the truth, you are fully answered at Post #61.
Picture reminds of John Boehner. Oh, it says liberals ...my mistake.
They also don't seem to understand that most businesses employing entry level people are borderline.
Finally, since so many of them work [or have worked] for the gub'mint, they believe that businesses budget for "head count." No. We don't. If I have $240,000 for 10 FTE entry-level workers and the minimum wage goes from $7.25 to $15 /hour, I don't suddenly find room in the budget to keep them on. I suddenly find $240,000 pays half as many people, and half of them are gone.
Only for the first few weeks he worked there.
“”I have been an employer for 40 years. You don’t know what you are talking about.
I have either been an employer or self-employed for longer than that, and if you actually believe what you’ve posted here, you are a fool who needs to sell out and retire.
If you want to know the truth, you are fully answered at Post #61.””
You still don’t know what you are talking about. I have heard your argument before, numerous times. People think that whatever the government forces an employer to pay into UI SS etc. can simply be offset by raising the price of their goods or services. It is an ignorant viewpoint.
For $30.00 we had two Olive Garden meals of lasagna, Chicken Parmesian, and Chicken Fettucine, plus soft Italian long rolls, and two large salads. Northern Virginia.
California - you are screwed, and deserving of it.
I see that went way over your head and you can't distinguish between the two.
My point stands.
The real minimum wage is $0.00 regardless of overall income.
If people won't pay, they won't pay.
/johnny
Many, Many people do not know how a payroll expense is figured....they think that you set aside the $15.00 per hour and then pick up whatever expenses that there are involved with having an employee. That is one of the major reasons that small business failures are so high. In reality, an employer says I can afford $30 per hour for help. Out of that $30 comes unemployment ins, 1/2 FICA, vacation allowance, liability ins., health ins., and what is left of the $30, the employee gets.
If an employer knows how to determine payroll expenses, the employee pays everything...
Do you have any experience in business at all? Employee salaries is only part of the labor cost. Add at least 35-40% for fringe benefits on top of the salary to cover employee benefits.
Cost us $60,000 for each employee who made $30,000 back in the ‘80’s.
If he or she wants to go to jail, perhaps.
Where are you shopping that frozen pizzas are $15? I just bought one for less than $3.
Yeah, I mostly helped veterans find work or start a business, when I wasn’t teaching a job placement class for welfare moms. Make fun of that now.
Nonononono .... it’s the surcharge that CA will put on frozen pizza because robots will serve pizza .... it was a joke ... LOL’s.
Read the post, and understand what I'm saying. When the government mandates an x% increase it means x% fewer employees, not x% in price increases.
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