[E. Pluribus Unum]

Evidently Alan only read the first clause.

[marron]

A few years ago I would never have questioned birth-right citizenship, even for illegals. A few years before that I would have had a very laissez faire attitude about the wide-open border.

But when you have people coming across the border, to stay, millions per year, decade after decade, you have to get real. Its way past time we get real.

[familyop]

In order to understand it, one needs to be an American whose ancestors lived in New York hundreds of years ago rather than a generation or three.

http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/bp445-e.htm

CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP ACT
AND CURRENT ISSUES

Prepared by:
Margaret Young
Law and Government Division
October 1997
Revised August 1998

[...]

APPENDIX A

BIRTH ON A COUNTRY’S SOIL:
THE LAW IN SELECTED COUNTRIES(44)

Most people gain their citizenship at birth by means of one of two main legal systems. The first is the British common law system, under which citizenship is obtained by virtue of the place of birth — jus soli — regardless of the citizenship of the parents. The second is the tradition based on Roman law, which gives primacy to the citizenship of the parents — jus sanguinis, regardless of where the child is born.(45)

[familyop]

This was the point, by the way.

Most people gain their citizenship at birth by means of one of two main legal systems. The first is the British common law system [after the English Civil War], under which citizenship is obtained by virtue of the place of birth — jus soli — regardless of the citizenship of the parents. The second is the tradition based on Roman law, which gives primacy to the citizenship of the parents — jus sanguinis, regardless of where the child is born.(45)

[pierrem15]

it defied logic but was unlikely to change in the short-term

Nice, succinct summary why the country is now FUBAR.

We have been rich long enough for significant segments of the population-- especially the business and political elites-- to have become insulated (or even rewarded by) the consequences of their bad decision making that our public life becomes more and more irrational.

[skeeter]

Lord please let this trend towards sanity continue.

[ETL]

“Alan Dershowitz: Birthright Citizenship Is ‘Bizarre’”

It is. It’s like some couple breaks into your basement, lives there undetected for a time, then has a baby, and the baby is then ruled by law a member of your family.

[ClearCase_guy]

it’s in our Constitution and it would be impossible to amend the Constitution to change that

Boy, the Founding Fathers really dropped the ball! If only they had thought about adding language covering the topic of amending the Constitution!!

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Sure. Just like slavery is legal.

[kvanbrunt2]

And he thinks that the constructors of the 14th amendment were the dumbest people on earth (altho i thinkk they were progressive aka communists)

[joemsewi]

If you watch the Alan Dershowitz episode on PBS “Who do you think you are” Dershowitz claimed that his ancestors were in America illegally after they arrived. His comment to that was: “that’s why I am on the side of the illegal immigrants today.” Dershowitz has a dog in the fight.

[GraceG]

You know how we end anchor babies?

Jail their parents for being illegally trespassing then deport them and adopt out their newly born children to a loving set of CITIZEN parents!

This Anchor Baby crap would go away overnight!

Draconian, YES

Effective, HELL YES!

The babies would have their citizenship and they wouldn’t be able to chain migrate their birth parents in.

[semimojo]

The Professor has it right, and the reason it seems bizarre today is that there was no such thing as illegal immigration at the time the 14th was drafted. If there had been the amendment may well have been worded differently, but it wasn't. So now our solution is to repeal/ replace the amendment.