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Conservatives provide a reality check on Donald Trump's mass deportation plan
Examiner ^ | August 22, 2015 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 08/23/2015 12:07:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Ever since Donald Trump, the mercurial businessman, media personality, and presidential candidate, proposed his immigration policy, centering on the mass deportation of up to 11 million human beings, reaction among conservatives has been decidedly mixed. Ann Coulter, for whom illegal immigration is the alpha and the omega of public policy, exalted that Trump could perform abortions in the White House, and she would not care. But Charles Krauthammer, writing in the National Review on Thursday, and George Will, in his latest column published Saturday, provided reality checks.

Krauthammer wondered what the practical political effects would be of reenacting the Trail of Tears on a mass scale would be on the Republican Party, poised as it is on the edge of its greatest victory since 1980. His answer is not very hopeful.

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Will, on the other hand, concentrates on how big government would have to grow to implement Trump’s plan.

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............. Even Ted Cruz, no slouch where it comes to illegal immigration, realizes that this would require a constitutional amendment, a dubious prospect at best.

The upshot is that there exist practical ways of dealing with illegal immigration that most people would not find abhorrent. These include securing the borders with a wall, cracking down on people who overstay their visas, eliminating the abuse of H1-B work visas where some companies are replacing American workers with cheaper foreign workers, and dealing with the illegals that are already here in some way that is not as obnoxious as mass deportation and not as craven as amnesty. Trump’s proposal, at least according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty, creating millions of Democratic voters that would reduce the Republican Party to permenant minority status.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; US: Wisconsin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And by the way, the ministry of disinformation. ...I mean the National Review ought to check their numbers re: the Trump rally.

“The city of Mobile confirmed late Friday that 30,000 people attended.”


61 posted on 08/23/2015 2:07:00 AM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: piasa
You can call Walker names all you want but loser is not one of them. What he accomplished against the communist left in Wisconsin was miraculous... and he did it without making donations to the Clinton Foundation and Harry Reid.

Walker is a filthy loser who disqualified himself the moment he flipped on birthright citizenship. As it is, his position on immigration was already shady and dishonest. He should drop out.

62 posted on 08/23/2015 2:12:45 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Kaosinla
Trump's crowd at Ladd–Peebles Stadium was big but there were empty seats.


63 posted on 08/23/2015 2:19:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Who is your candidate?


64 posted on 08/23/2015 2:19:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And a pic or statement about empty seats is supposed to discount the official number from the city? Once again, that is media psyops that’s usually a tactic from the leftist playbook. Funny how the Gop-e is using it as well. These aren’t ships passing in the night. They share the same house.


65 posted on 08/23/2015 2:29:31 AM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I like Trump, with Carson second (until I learn more about his position on illegal immigration), with Cruz as a last resort.


66 posted on 08/23/2015 2:30:05 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s not going to be president no matter how many supporting articles you post, period. He has shown to be a flip flopping RINO.


67 posted on 08/23/2015 2:32:15 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What happened to the America that defeated the Japanese and the Germans at the same time?


68 posted on 08/23/2015 2:33:06 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Kaosinla

I made no claim to know how many there were (and did say it was a big), nor did I state a number. I posted a picture that you don’t usually see, because Trump is a showman and sometimes you need to see a bigger picture to get more information where he is concerned.


69 posted on 08/23/2015 2:35:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MARKUSPRIME

You get one vote.

But thank you for your assessment.


70 posted on 08/23/2015 2:35:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty,

How's he going to do that if they're deported and there's a wall? Let them back in so they can be given amnesty?

71 posted on 08/23/2015 2:36:30 AM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, not entirely droves, but by my estimate, about 15–20 percent of the 18,000 or so attendees — Trump publicity organs had earlier said they expected up to 35,000 — had filed out before Trump wound up his many-versed hymn to his own toughness and deal-making skills....." 

That was in response to the excerpt from Nat. Review you posted in 41. It's false.

72 posted on 08/23/2015 2:50:49 AM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Texas 18.09% debt to GDP

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-texas-debt-clock.html

6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt…

7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game. This is an essential point, and happily is attended with no difficulty.

11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks.

/Freneau - Rules

Debt will lead us all to the cattle haulers.

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

Witness current events.

http://www.usdebtclock.org


73 posted on 08/23/2015 2:52:34 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Hugin
Trump is all flash.

This is what Walker has been tackling and winning against in the hotbed and wellspring of socialism (the Wisconsin Idea that started over 100 years ago and spread across the country). He's taken on the machine that has built the political, educational, media army that is burying our Republic.

You'll look long and hard to find such an extensive catalog of a fight against these angry, entrenched Leftists, one that started in 2011 and is still being waged today.

Look over the information at those two links.

74 posted on 08/23/2015 2:53:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I predict your obsession with Walker is going to get you banned from this site soon.


75 posted on 08/23/2015 3:01:25 AM PDT by pugmama
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To: Yosemitest

So, which Cruz do we trust? The one who speaks about a 500% increase in H1-B visas or the one who amended the Gang of 8 bill to give work permits to all illegals living in the US, just like Obama is doing?

Whatever you try to smear Walker with makes your candidate look even worse.


77 posted on 08/23/2015 3:04:33 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker -- more conservative actions as governor than even Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Kaosinla

Quin Hillyer, whose OpEd is linked in Comment #41, was there. I will take his observations, as well as your source and others, to try and gauge the truth.


78 posted on 08/23/2015 3:05:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Who is your candidate?


79 posted on 08/23/2015 3:06:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: pugmama

Is that a prediction or a wish?


80 posted on 08/23/2015 3:07:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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