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To: Rockitz

But the MSM including Fox are not allowing people to hear the other side. It is a conspiracy of omission.


2 posted on 08/23/2015 10:28:27 AM PDT by kabar
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The hidden hand of the corporatists is imposing fascism through their propaganda machines.


7 posted on 08/23/2015 10:36:35 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: kabar
"But the MSM including Fox are not allowing people to hear the other side. It is a conspiracy of omission."

Same thing happened regarding the true meaning of natural born Citizen.

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

48 posted on 08/23/2015 8:27:23 PM PDT by Godebert
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"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I just printed out the fourteenth amendment.

If an illegal comes here to have a baby she cannot confer U.S. status/citenship on her baby if she does not reside in a state legally.

In other words a mother of a baby in the US must have US residency in one of the 50 states or her birth should be construed as a birth from her home country and nothing else. ITs clearly stated in the Constitution.

IMHO, it clearly states that to become a citizen residency in a state is clearly a must. One must be a resident of one of the 50 states to become a citizen. An illegal person who comes to the US and is not a resident of one of the 50 states is clearly not a citizen of the US nor would any birth she gives allow US citizenship simply because they are born in one of the 50 states.

Residency/citizenship is a must.

Where am I going wrong?

62 posted on 08/24/2015 5:03:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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