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How Republicans Can Win Back Conservatives - Passing the emotional purity test
Front Page ^ | August 26, 2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 08/26/2015 11:13:50 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Nextrush

Correct- Reagan Democrats and the old confederate Dems are exactly who Trump is appealing to, not to ideological conservatives and not to the religious right. He’s actually doing what the GOP has been trying and failing to do- win the independents - but unlike the GOP, Trump recognized that the independents aren’t a bunch of mushy moderates singing Kumbayah but alienated southern Democrats who aren’t allowed in the Democrat party any more and never were comfortable in the inclusive Republican party, some Ross Perotistas, Pat Buchanan Republicans, etc. Trump doesn’t have to win ideological conservatives so long as they are frustrated enough with the GOP not to turn out at all... all he needs is to win what used to be traditional Democrats, and he’s beating the GOP with its own handiwork because he is appealing to the frustrated, angry people no matter who they are - and angry people are the most motivated voters. People may not show up to vote for someone they love but they WILL show up to vote against the ones they hate.


41 posted on 08/27/2015 3:13:50 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: 4rcane
GOPe become very energetic and animated when fighting Conservatives but not against other Left wingers because they’re allies

But instead of turning out to support those conservatives the GOPe fought, people are turning to a guy with no more conservative credentials than Obama had. In fact, Obama pulled the Reagan Democrat vote in 2008 by using Trump's tactics. Speaking against gay marriage, talking tough about Pakistan, etc.

42 posted on 08/27/2015 3:20:42 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They have lost all faith in the Republican Party.

He got that part right, but as for "winning" me back… I've been bent over the sawhorse by the GOP past my breaking point, and the experience wasn't any more pleasant than when Democrats did it.

The GOP willingly made deals with the devil, and the GOP has earned its place in hell (which has a really big tent and no border controls).

Mr. niteowl77

43 posted on 08/27/2015 3:21:08 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("I wish I had better news for you, but the truth is that this thing is not worth fixing anymore.")
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To: SmokingJoe

Quote:

“He IS soliciting campaign contributions, BOTH big and small, after mocking others for doing the same.”

You have some proof of this? I signed on to the Trump campaign early and have NEVER received a SINGLE request for contributions, None. Zero.

However, I am constantly bombarded with such requests from the RNC, Walker, Cruz, Huckabee, Carson, and others.

That’s what you get for having contributed money to the RNC and the McCain campaign despite have unsubscribed to them years ago.

What is odd is I haven’t received any requests for cash from the Bush campaign either. Actually, it’s no so odd at all. We know where Bush gets his money and it ain’t from the little people.


44 posted on 08/27/2015 3:30:41 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: kalee

Placemarker


45 posted on 08/27/2015 3:31:07 AM PDT by kalee
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To: chris37
A second mistake is to assume that the other candidates can change their act and win me back.

But Trump changed his act momentarily and suddenly he's a sparkly unicorn that passes perfectly formed caramel and candy road apples up and down every street. That unicorn's never been ridden in the mud, so of course he looks pretty.

46 posted on 08/27/2015 3:32:41 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Simple enough - start acting like Conservatives instead of telling us lies and betraying us....


47 posted on 08/27/2015 4:05:15 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

I think it is in their nature. They just cannot help from stabbing us in the back. It’s what they do.


48 posted on 08/27/2015 4:45:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DoughtyOne

Loved the rant.
However, it is August 2015. By November 2016, we may be certain, millions of new voters will be putting a thumb on the scale. Illegal aliens will be voting, and not for Donald Trump or any Republican.
And the Obama regime will be counting the votes.


49 posted on 08/27/2015 4:54:33 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: antidisestablishment
I fear it may be too little, too late; but better to fight and lose, than to obediently slouch into the cattle cars.

Yes indeed. Do you see anyone fighting? I do not.

50 posted on 08/27/2015 4:55:51 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: SmokingJoe

I have donated to Trump and I have never received an email soliciting more. In fact the only email I have received is one thanking me for the donation.


51 posted on 08/27/2015 4:57:41 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Scott Walker needs an encore to that or perhaps more appropriately, a sequel.

Nigel Farage of UKIP has said Margaret Thatcher was right to have gone after the excesses of unions back in the 1980’s, but he now speaks of the UK political system as one where ‘big business, big banks and big government’ collaborate in a “corporatist” system against individuals and small business. He’s attacked the flood of cheap labor into the UK to help the big businesses hold wages down.


52 posted on 08/27/2015 5:10:52 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sorry, Daniel, can’t be done.

Not after the last election.


53 posted on 08/27/2015 5:16:29 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 4rcane

You’re right. It’s not that Romney wouldn’t fight it’s that he would only attack conservatives.


54 posted on 08/27/2015 5:18:27 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: DoughtyOne

Amazingly well written and right on the money, can I repost that to facebook (with accreditation of course)?


55 posted on 08/27/2015 5:19:33 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Buttons12; DoughtyOne
"And the Obama regime will be counting the votes."

Do you think Trump would idly stand by and let them steal the election from him?

56 posted on 08/27/2015 5:21:47 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: Amntn
Do you think Trump would idly stand by and let them steal the election from him?

I have no idea what Trump will be up to in November 2016.

57 posted on 08/27/2015 5:31:43 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bull.
We want RESULTS! We’ve had none.

That was Walker’s big draw for me when he entered the race. His campaign has been terrible though.


58 posted on 08/27/2015 5:38:38 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Amntn

Obama and the Dems have 14 months to effect the Big Change. They will find a way to enfranchise some part of the 11 million (or 20 or 30 million) illegals. Who’s going to stop them? John Boehner? Ted Cruz?
Trump isn’t even a legislator.
We need to face reality. Illegals will be legalized. They’ll be driving legally. To the polls.
Not a blessed thing Trump can do about that.


59 posted on 08/27/2015 5:45:44 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This isn’t about what Trump or Carson believe. It’s about what the base believes.

I love when writers contradict themselves in successive sentences.

Conservatives are tired of candidates who promise to be conservative but govern like liberals. Your candidate, Scott Walker, doesn't do that, and neither does mine, Ted Cruz.

The sooner conservatives understand that electing people who play as good a game as they talk is imperative, we'll see some progress. In order to do that, we can't elect amateurs, even as angry as we are.

If you are going to run the free world, you do need some level of experience in that regard. Trump and Carson simply do not qualify.

60 posted on 08/27/2015 5:54:06 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Donald Trump: Quality Conservatism Since 2015.")
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